Just saw this while scrolling on fedi being posted by this user: @Rasta@zeroes.ca

  • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    54 minutes ago

    Lowkey, I don’t view it as men vs. women at all. It’s really just the bourgeoisie pitting us against each other by playing favourites.

    tl;dr: Workers of the world, unite!

    Edit: I made an additional statement, which was sexist against men. I have removed it. My appologies.

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      7 hours ago

      I’m all for a safe space for women but this reeks of sexism. Except the good ones, is a common trope among bigots who want to generalize without sounding like bigots.

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        I think perhaps my opinions have shifted to fit in with my sisters and mother. They say things like that they hate all men, and say “it’s not personal” to my dad and brother-in-law.

        I appologise for being sexist. I shall attempt to course-correct.

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          Haha, this is why my previous manager told me I never would have been hired if she was there first, because she doesn’t hire men.

          Oh wait my voice isn’t allowed in this area because I should exclusively identify with and associate with “my kind”

          Gotta follow the rules, but also most of our ideas of men and women are just social constructs that have been confabulated into existence and we aren’t allowed to change those or identify/relate/communicate out of whichever bounding has been provided as for our specific feature group.

          Gotta love how I couldn’t get people to respect the danger the heritage foundation types pose to women through local and federal systemic change in the usa, because thinking make genial mutilation should also be illegal somehow means I hate women and think men are more important than women, and I should be banned and nobody has to think about the systemic problems outside of the preferences of our extremely narrow eco-niche. And actually seeking communication and cooperation by improving how we communicate our conceptualize the social constructs is just me mansplaining.

          The best mansplaining on the subject actually comes from Mahault Alberracin and her modern framing frameworks and formalism,

          So when my comment gets deleted because I was born into the wrong body. I hope someone else brings up her work.

          https://youtu.be/gdXE_h60f1g

          But we need to be able to scale intent and action in ways that don’t enable heritage foundation types while causing friction and inability to resolve between progressive movements.

          But if we just shape feminism into neoliberal form patriarchy we don’t have to think about any of this.

          You are all appreciated, even if my shell which I’ve never cared for still disqualifies me from participation because that’s the shape we want our socializing to take I guess.

          • velma@sh.itjust.works
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            !feminism@lemmy.world is rather active and we can make it more so if you truly want to discuss these types of subjects with all genders. Maybe someone else has a better community suggestion.

            None of the community members here told you those things or said you were mansplaining. Please do not paint us all with the same brush.

            Please respect that women and femme and non-binary people want a space to discuss with each other in a safe and supportive community.

        • Wren@lemmy.today
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          3 hours ago

          Thanks for listening and owning up. I know it’s hard to break a habit when casual sexism becomes your norm.

          • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            2 hours ago

            I honestly have a tendency to avoid taking responsibility and acknowledging when I’m wrong, but I’m trying to do better. Feel free to correct/confront me in the future.

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              I appreciate it. As someone who fought some hard rejection sensitivity issues, it feels way better to own up than to double down when I know I’m wrong.

              • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                1 hour ago

                Oh. I looked it up, and that sounds like me. I wonder if it’s connected to my social anxiety.

                Also, yeah, owning up does feel better than digging my heels in.

                • Wren@lemmy.today
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                  I learned it’s part of ADHD, which I have. Naming it has helped me acknowledge when it’s happening. Since anxiety goes hand in hand with conditions like ADHD, it might be related.

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      I’m uneasy with this commonly seen argument here. There is a class war, but it’s not like the gender war disappears on the working class side when workers unite.

      It’s only men vs women insofar as men uphold and reinforce the patriarchy like in the post.

      People more eloquent than myself can probably elaborate on what I’m saying better than my admittedly brief comment here.

    • CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      Idk look around the world, even places practically untouched by capitalism, tribal villages, remote rural communities, isolated traditional societies… women are almost always second class citizens at best and subjugated livestock or even worse even in some places were women giving birth will not be provided care with out her owner husband present and it’s illegal to practice midwifery but men are not allowed to practice medicine on women, even animal get medical care that isn’t discriminatory based on their sex. I fear this is just human nature or at least post agriculture human behavior

      • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I think it might be a natural thing. In the animal world, males are usually the boss, which is due to generally being larger and stronger.

        I think it could be trained out of people—meaning both men and women. I’d like to think we’re cabable of resisting nature through education.

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          In the animal world, males are usually the boss, which is due to generally being larger and stronger

          This is why I love spiders. The females are big, beautiful, and full of color, then they eat the males once they have fulfilled their reproductive duty.

          Humans should be more like spiders and eat men (not really, I’m just being silly 😊)

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      12 hours ago

      Honestly I’d really like to believe it’s not most men that would do fucked up shit. Men are problematic because most don’t speak up when they see bad shit, but I still think it’s a minority that are actually doing the bad shit. I do think that not speaking up is conditioning that can be broken though.

      At least that’s me trying to live in a glass-half-full world.

      • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        12 hours ago

        I would like to believe the same. It seems more likely than all men being extremely dangerous individuals whose composure might snap at any moment.

        Anyways, cheers to half-full glasses!