• root@lemmy.wtf
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    they go to jail in the Vatican itself or Italy

    30-35 years is the max sentence in the Vatican tho, as life imprisonment was banned by Pope Francis

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      In January 2024, a Vatican Court of Appeals handed down the first-ever prison sentence for sexual abuse perpetrated on Vatican sovereign territory.

      Less than three years for this first ever case…

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          I understand they only have jurisdiction in the Vatican, but your comment made it sound like it’s a more common thing than a one off occurrence.

          Personally, I find it pretty telling that the church didn’t take the abuse seriously until they started bleeding followers, affecting their tithes.

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            the Church charges you? I think it heavily depends on your diocese or area but its voluntarily and doesnt literally have to be 10% of your income

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              Nobody said it wasn’t voluntary, just that it was impacted by the public’s understandable disgust over the rampant pedophilia the church enabled - and once that happened, suddenly the church is mustering its response.

              Also quit dodging the question - why present it like it’s a common thing for the church to have done, when it’s happened once?

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        Oo! Oo! Ask them if any priests have gone to jail in the vatican for it! They totally dipped on answering that one the last time they trotted out this tired act, maybe they’ve figured it out since then! I know there’s been one, but has there been two??

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          As far as I can tell, just one, Father Gabriel Martinelli. They probably didn’t answer because the guy got less than three years

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            You mean it’s absolutely devastating to their argument and they’re just ignoring it? A catholic?!? No, they would never!

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      and in other countries, they are usually handed over, or sent to another country to be arrested

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        No they’re not.

        When the church finds out about it and has any choice in the matter, they ship the offending priest to some other church to keep reoffending.

        In fact we still don’t know the full names of everyone they know about.

        The only time a priest has been prosecuted is when secular institutions have forced the matter. You know. By arresting them and sending them to trial.