• OldGrayDog@fedinsfw.app
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    4 days ago

    I believe that sugar and caffeine are the real gateway drugs, they are the 1st chemical compounds many people are addicted to.

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      4 days ago

      Gateway to what? Harder cookies? A double shot of espresso? They’re definitely drugs, but I think to call them a gateway isn’t so accurate.

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        “Gateway” is subjective, but sugar is certainly the first substance people encounter that influences cognitive behavior. Consume this thing and feel this way.

        Of course that doesn’t mean you’re going to go and shoot up some heroin, but both are certainly “addictive”.

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        Both of those are biologically necessary. So if we’re going that route, oxygen.

        You can live just fine without consuming sugar or caffeine.

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          Sugar is a bit of a stretch, since we also do need it. We just get it in a lot of food, since a lot of the foods we eat also need sugar to grow and do things.

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            We do need a small amount of glucose, that’s why I was specific that we don’t need to consume it. We can make the amount we actually need from the protein we eat.

            Whether that’s ideal or not is a separate conversation, but we can live our whole lives without consuming sugar or carbs.

            We’d literally die if we didn’t eat salt or fat.

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              https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/ask-dietitian-can-you-survive-without-carbs/

              Can you survive without any carbs in your diet? An army of zero-carb-diet social media influencers seem to think so.

              EDIT: To clarify, my whole point in this thread has been that you can get addicted to salt and fat, both of which are things you need. I don’t know why the fuck anyone would want to ramble about whether you can “fully quit carbs”. Maybe the best question here is “Why would you and why are you even talking about it?”. Again: you can get addicted to things you need. Consuming it in excess is what makes it an addiction. There’s no rule that says you can only get addicted to things you want but not need

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          Dude… they’re literally banning fast-food ads in the UK. This is no time to get pedantic haha

          You can absolutely get addicted to salt and fat

          And we do need sugar… Carbs are sugar. You need carbs

          Don’t take this personally but it kinda sucks you got upvoted this much

          EDIT: Lots of morbidly obese Americans here. Sorry I offended your gods, salt and fat. Oh and get off the internet every once in a while. There’s too many of you here and 90% of your opinions are moronic.