So, this looks like “Something awful, that I don’t need, is increasing my energy prices”. A more accurate version would probably look like “Something really useful that I use all the time is increasing my energy prices”.
Whenever you see social media posts that demonise data centers just bear in mind all the foreign powers who are working hard to make you hate data centers (also look at my comments and downvotes which have now entered legendary status and are all pointless anyway, because no one’s reading this now lol. Next time if you’re going to organise a pile-on you’ve got to be quicker off the mark chaps).
To anyone with an interest in critical thinking just Google who the Bitcoin Policy Institute is and make your own mind up. Or you know… go with the glib soundbite. Up to you lol
Shilling for data centers puts you on the same dumbass level as Kevin O’Leary and Peter Thiel who spout bullshit like “the Pope is serving the Chinese communist agenda for doubting AI”.
Well it isn’t to “Shill for data centers” but I suspect you knew that already. Honestly, nobody is reading this anymore unless it’s their job, so this is just a conversation between us. I get fed up with these echo chambers. They’re so pointless since everyone already agrees with each other and sensible people just stay away anyway, but it’s still annoying that so few people challenge these talking points. “Data center bad”, “Won’t someone think of the water?!”, “AI is secretly a plan to enslave us all” etc.
My intent was to challenge these things and see who would respond genuinely and who would just stick to the script. It’s been quite interesting. Also, honestly it felt good not to be intimidated or spun out in a thread full of sarcasm, ridicule, ad hominem attacks etc.
As for the downvotes, oh well… Most of the rest of my time here is generally positive. Sometimes though it feels good to stand up and say what I think, even if it costs some fake internet points lol
The thing is that I’m in Toronto—the same city that Kevin O’Leary’s from—and while my view of him was never great, it took a deep dive in 2024 when IIUC he agreed that Canada should join the US, and now he’s going on about critics of data centers being fronts for the Chinese (even though I’m sure he’s dealt with the Chinese in preference to North American businesses at times).
Further, as one who for the most part doesn’t agree with “intellectual property” I’m kind of with the Chinese on this one as I don’t consider the “theft” of IP a big problem, and resent the US government insisting that we (Canada) should tighten up (I think we should go far in the opposite direction);
and while I’m anti-CPC, I tire of the Sinophobia, such as O’Leary’s use of it, so when you started to sound like him, I, and probably others here, thought, “Oh no, here we go again.”
(btw, I didn’t downvote you: I rarely downvote people)
What does responding genuinely mean to you? Is it so hard to believe that people, especially those on here, hate data centers? To me it seems like your intent was just to confirm your view that the place is an echo chamber. Hearing “yeah it’s all Chinese bots everything is actually great 👍” is what you wanted to find?
Why is it so hard for you to believe there could be another take to the comfortable one you hold? You should question everything all the time. How much personal research have you done yourself into, for example, what other industries in the US use massive amounts of water. The answer may surprise you. Anyway, this discussion is so over that cleaning services are vacuuming and tidying away the folding chairs. I’m off before they cut the power and lock the doors lol
“BPI provides the research, education, and expertise necessary to help America lead in the digital asset revolution while protecting consumers and preserving individual liberty.”
They sound just lovely and definitely have all our best interests at heart. And totally not bitcoin shills, nosiree.
Grant McCarty: Executive Director
Matthew Pines: Director of Special Programs / Senior Fellow
Sam Lyman: Head of Research (formerly of the U.S. Treasury Department)
David Zell: President
The institute acts as an educational and advisory resource for lawmakers, regulators, and the media.
Direct Engagement: BPI regularly briefs Congressional members and agency staff, provides expert testimonies, and shapes federal and state legislation.
Congressional Fellowship: BPI operates a fellowship program to train policymakers and their staff on the fundamentals of Bitcoin technology and policy.
Bitcoin Policy Summit: BPI hosts an annual flagship conference in Washington, D.C., that brings together regulators, researchers, and industry leaders to discuss digital asset policy.
Is this cherry picking too? 682df013e55cf277195c3034_BPI Policy Manifesto 20 May 2025.pdf https://share.google/fUP3qeJbPSQI0yCuP in which the title is literally “BITCOIN POLICY
INSTITUTE
A Comprehensive Policy Framework
for U.S. Leadership on Bitcoin
Zack Shapiro” sorry about the Google share, can’t find it linked anywhere else. In this policy recommendation they advocate for establishing a US Bitcoin strategic reserve. C’mon now, spin that one as it being for protection of the little guy.
I’m cheering for them, yea. If you think it’s those pesky Chinese and Russians, those “foreign powers” include the UN and most other countries btw.
But I’m sure it’s just because they don’t understand the American economic genius. Anyway all of this is not a problem because the real solution is datacenters in space right?
So, this looks like “Something awful, that I don’t need, is increasing my energy prices”. A more accurate version would probably look like “Something really useful that I use all the time is increasing my energy prices”.
Whenever you see social media posts that demonise data centers just bear in mind all the foreign powers who are working hard to make you hate data centers (also look at my comments and downvotes which have now entered legendary status and are all pointless anyway, because no one’s reading this now lol. Next time if you’re going to organise a pile-on you’ve got to be quicker off the mark chaps).
Foreign Influence in the Campaign against American AI
“Using facts that happen to be true”
Domestic powers are working hard to make you love data centers
Won’t someone please think of the data centers.
LMFAO
yeah that’s about as hilarious an article as I expected from an outlet called “btcpolicy”
To anyone with an interest in critical thinking just Google who the Bitcoin Policy Institute is and make your own mind up. Or you know… go with the glib soundbite. Up to you lol
Shilling for data centers puts you on the same dumbass level as Kevin O’Leary and Peter Thiel who spout bullshit like “the Pope is serving the Chinese communist agenda for doubting AI”.
Classic mischaracterization of my intent there. Keep going lol
What is your intent?
Well it isn’t to “Shill for data centers” but I suspect you knew that already. Honestly, nobody is reading this anymore unless it’s their job, so this is just a conversation between us. I get fed up with these echo chambers. They’re so pointless since everyone already agrees with each other and sensible people just stay away anyway, but it’s still annoying that so few people challenge these talking points. “Data center bad”, “Won’t someone think of the water?!”, “AI is secretly a plan to enslave us all” etc.
My intent was to challenge these things and see who would respond genuinely and who would just stick to the script. It’s been quite interesting. Also, honestly it felt good not to be intimidated or spun out in a thread full of sarcasm, ridicule, ad hominem attacks etc.
As for the downvotes, oh well… Most of the rest of my time here is generally positive. Sometimes though it feels good to stand up and say what I think, even if it costs some fake internet points lol
Okay.
The thing is that I’m in Toronto—the same city that Kevin O’Leary’s from—and while my view of him was never great, it took a deep dive in 2024 when IIUC he agreed that Canada should join the US, and now he’s going on about critics of data centers being fronts for the Chinese (even though I’m sure he’s dealt with the Chinese in preference to North American businesses at times).
Further, as one who for the most part doesn’t agree with “intellectual property” I’m kind of with the Chinese on this one as I don’t consider the “theft” of IP a big problem, and resent the US government insisting that we (Canada) should tighten up (I think we should go far in the opposite direction);
and while I’m anti-CPC, I tire of the Sinophobia, such as O’Leary’s use of it, so when you started to sound like him, I, and probably others here, thought, “Oh no, here we go again.”
(btw, I didn’t downvote you: I rarely downvote people)
What does responding genuinely mean to you? Is it so hard to believe that people, especially those on here, hate data centers? To me it seems like your intent was just to confirm your view that the place is an echo chamber. Hearing “yeah it’s all Chinese bots everything is actually great 👍” is what you wanted to find?
I… Did you really type that sentence?
Why is it so hard for you to believe there could be another take to the comfortable one you hold? You should question everything all the time. How much personal research have you done yourself into, for example, what other industries in the US use massive amounts of water. The answer may surprise you. Anyway, this discussion is so over that cleaning services are vacuuming and tidying away the folding chairs. I’m off before they cut the power and lock the doors lol
So I did as commanded
“BPI provides the research, education, and expertise necessary to help America lead in the digital asset revolution while protecting consumers and preserving individual liberty.”
They sound just lovely and definitely have all our best interests at heart. And totally not bitcoin shills, nosiree.
Nice cherry picking… Allow me:
BPI operates as a 501©(3) nonprofit with research and editorial independence. The core team consists of around 25 fellows, advisors, and full-time professionals, including:
Grant McCarty: Executive Director
Matthew Pines: Director of Special Programs / Senior Fellow
Sam Lyman: Head of Research (formerly of the U.S. Treasury Department)
David Zell: President
The institute acts as an educational and advisory resource for lawmakers, regulators, and the media.
Direct Engagement: BPI regularly briefs Congressional members and agency staff, provides expert testimonies, and shapes federal and state legislation.
Congressional Fellowship: BPI operates a fellowship program to train policymakers and their staff on the fundamentals of Bitcoin technology and policy.
Bitcoin Policy Summit: BPI hosts an annual flagship conference in Washington, D.C., that brings together regulators, researchers, and industry leaders to discuss digital asset policy.
Who funds them?
The fossil fuel industry, crypto bros, Kevin O’Leary, and other MAGA riff-raff?
Is this cherry picking too? 682df013e55cf277195c3034_BPI Policy Manifesto 20 May 2025.pdf https://share.google/fUP3qeJbPSQI0yCuP in which the title is literally “BITCOIN POLICY INSTITUTE A Comprehensive Policy Framework for U.S. Leadership on Bitcoin Zack Shapiro” sorry about the Google share, can’t find it linked anywhere else. In this policy recommendation they advocate for establishing a US Bitcoin strategic reserve. C’mon now, spin that one as it being for protection of the little guy.
https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/627aa615676bdd562bec97cd/682df013e55cf277195c3034_BPI Policy Manifesto 20 May 2025.pdf
Thanks for fixing that.
You think a Bitcoin based outlet is not biased on power usage and individual economic growth over society’s? Good critical thinking
Google “are foreign powers trying to turn people against data centers?” I’ll wait…
I’m cheering for them, yea. If you think it’s those pesky Chinese and Russians, those “foreign powers” include the UN and most other countries btw.
But I’m sure it’s just because they don’t understand the American economic genius. Anyway all of this is not a problem because the real solution is datacenters in space right?
Again, there’s a lot of crap on Google.
There’s a lot of crap on Google, but no article about this “Bitcoin Policy Institute” in WP.
*links to a “Bitcoin Policy Institute”
sounds legit.
:-/
Oh fuck off. Don’t tell me we’ve got corpo shill bots on Lemmy too now💀