• ByteMe@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    In my opinion, at a healthy workplace, someone taking time off shouldn’t be noticed

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      3 days ago

      In a “healthy” capitalist environment, they take note of who can leave without any bumps in the road and lay them off

      I used to have this boss who would get mad if anyone asked for 2 weeks off. She would say, “if you think the business can survive without you for that long, why do we pay you? Don’t bother coming back then”

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        That boss was a short-sighted moron. (I assume we all can see that). I hope that role is as high up the food chain as the Peter Principal will allow them to go.

        1). Hiring is expensive, scouting, ads, interviews, and paying HR do process their onboarding and benifits. The rule of thumb Ive see previous managers use is the total cost to hire someone is 2-2.5 times their annual take-home. Not to mention the effectivness of a new hire learning the role costs the company real resources, time and effort to bring up to speed.

        2). Your PTO is part of your compensation, and can be used within policy as you see fit. Failure to allow its appropriate use could be viewed as wage theft and there are very powerful leagl avenues (depending on location) to take if the case is big enough to bring against the employeer.

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          3 days ago

          Within policy does a lot of heavy lifting.

          It’s generally very simple (by intent) for the employer to deny PTO requests “within policy.”

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      3 days ago

      The issue arises when multiple people all get sick at the same time, which is much more common than random chance would have it due to how contagious cold & flu (and COVID) are. A workplace that can handle half the staff gone for a day without falling behind is gonna struggle to find stuff for people to do when everyone is there.

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        3 days ago

        This is reason for having more lenient sick policies, not less. Generally only symptomatic people are contagious (COVID being an exception). Even mildly sick people should be encouraged to stay home until fully recovered to lower the risk of spreading it to the rest of the office.

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          2 days ago

          That can help, though the office isn’t the only transmission vector. Schools, grocery stores, restaurants, public transit, etc. are all major vectors. Families with early school-age children especially tend to get sick a lot, as young children learn and play in close proximity but don’t tend to follow good hygiene habits.

          There’s also just the issue that in any environment with multiple people, it only takes one infected person to infect everyone else. Different people have different tolerances for illness as well as varying severity of symptoms. Someone with mild symptoms may come to work/school anyway and the whole room gets sick.

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      3 days ago

      Have you never been in a position of management? You think absences should never be noted or logged?

      You might need to reconsider this.