I mean, what’s a social issue you might care about? Trans rights? Sure, let’s go with that. Which party issued guidance for including gender identity under Title IX protections? And which party is in charge in the states with bathroom bills?
Which party did Stonewall and other such things - the actual things that improved LGBT rights, rather than politicians doing lip service after the fact?
Both parties are similarly awful in this regard.
What about economic and industrial policy?
Both parties want to use the economy to subjugate, torture, and kill people outside of NATO. That includes me, as well as a bunch of other people from this site, by the way.
Both parties are also interested in keeping your domestic working class in awful conditions.
So, for the vast majority of humanity, there is no difference here.
Which party’s NLRB overruled Specialty Healthcare, and which one restored it?
Notably, neither party has given you good healthcare despite their ability to.
Which party is cracking around the question of enternal military support for Israel, and which party still steadfastly supports them?
Both parties support Pissrael. Stop memory holing the recent Dem administration’s full support for the genocide after its escalation (remember, the genocide started about a century ago at least), even doing things like the war crime pier.
Not even sure why you even think that the blue fascists have been in any way reconsidering support for their asset. This is, frankly, just your fan fiction.
Decorum my ass
You haven’t pointed to any differences between the parties other than that.
Build anything, literally anything, that’s nearly as effective as a fucking vote and I’ll spare you a thought
That’s a very low bar. Lying in bed and reading - especially educational stuff - would be more effective than voting in the US.
It doesn’t educate workers about about what to do, and it’s actually fucking incorrect
If it was as incorrect as you claim it to be, you would have been able to show results. And yet, it’s just a couple of centuries of failures, colonialism, and genocides.
Anyone who actually read your rebuttal thoughtfully would not be convinced. You are sidestepping every point. I point out who’s better on an issue today, you find a different issue to complain about, or dig into the historical record when there wasn’t yet differentiation on a question.
As a Cuban whether he’s worse off under Obama or Trump. Ask a woman trying to get an abortion in Florida. Ask the Israel lobby if they’re nervous about MI and KS still. They shovel money loke they’re scared. They hide McConnell like they’re scared.
I’m not saying that one can vote in revolutionary change, but voting absolutely matters. That’s why they try to restrict it. That’s why ungodly piles of cash get burned to influence it. That’s why spooks copy your rhetoric.
I point out who’s better on an issue today, you find a different issue to complain about, or dig into the historical record when there wasn’t yet differentiation on a question
You claimed that one of the parties is better on LGBT rights. I pointed out that the blue fascists only pay lip service to it, and that relevant rights were won by other people. Decidedly not by voting.
You claimed that one of the parties is better on economic policy. I pointed out that the economic policies of both are geared towards subjugation, torture and killing of the rest of the world, as well as its own domestic working class.
You claimed that one of the parties gave you better healthcare when all you’ve been fed are scraps. At best, this is a ‘bad cop - good cop’ routine. Also, remind me, which administration cancelled the RvW?
You claimed that the party that built the war crime pier, has been enthusiastically supporting the escalation of the genocide with weapon supplies, defunded UNRWA to contribute to the genocide escalation, cracked down on protestors against the genocide, etc. is somehow not a steadfast supporter of Pissrael.
Your point about Pissrael is especially silly, I’ve got to add.
As a Cuban whether he’s worse off under Obama or Trump.
Ask a Libyan if they are better off after Obama turned their country into an open-air slave market.
Ask a person in Afghanistan if they were worse off while Obama was bombing their hospitals.
Ask a woman trying to get an abortion in Florida.
Oh, hey, let’s actually do that. Let’s also ask which administration repealed the RvW precedent, despite the presidents of the relevant party explicitly promising to enshrine it in the USian constitution for decades.
Ask the Israel lobby if they’re nervous about MI and KS still.
Oh? Were they nervous about Biden that was sending them military supplies to conduct a genocide and that built the war crime pier for them?
I’m not saying that one can vote in revolutionary change, but voting absolutely matters
Voting in the US has produced approximately zero good results over its history.
That’s why they try to restrict it. That’s why ungodly piles of cash get burned to influence it. That’s why removed copy your rhetoric.
‘They’ have been convincing you all this time that voting matters.
If you actually think that it matters, then why are you unable to point to the good results?
You can point out every failure in shortcoming of the so-called left of the US government and it doesn’t fucking matter. They’re still to the left of the right. There’s still a discernible difference. Some things improve sometimes when one party gets into office, and most things get worse when the other gets in power. I don’t know how it works in your country, but here that counts as a difference. Sorry you can’t vote out capitalism over the next 4 years. That’ll have to be worked on some other way. In the meantime, voting is still better than not.
People who use the word ‘whataboutism’ unironically (i.e. when their hypocrisy is called out) are silly, should be disregarded, and should not be politically empowered.
This is especially silly after you tried to claim that the enslaver of Libya was good.
All you can do is whataboutism and distraction.
What am I distracting anybody from in this case? From the ‘strategy’ that your empire has convinced you of being fruitful, despite it yielding no results beneficial to the oppressed?
You can point out every failure in shortcoming of the so-called left of the US government and it doesn’t fucking matter. They’re still to the left of the right.
This is like saying that if one doesn’t support, say, Ernst Röhm, they are somehow bad, and that it doesn’t matter that he has “shortcomings”.
They are not to the left of the right. They are on the right. They have the same policies, and you can’t even claim that they are in opposition to the other part of your uniparty, as they literally fund their election candidates.
The only difference is aesthetics.
There’s still a discernible difference.
Which is what, exactly?
Some things improve sometimes when one party gets into office
The negotiation for the removal of NATO’s troops from Afghanistan was negotiated under Trump, which is more than what I can say about the blue fascists.
Meanwhile, the other party’s administration undid the legal precedent for abortions that they promised to put in the constitution.
and most things get worse when the other gets in power.
You mean how the ICE usage got worse under Obomber to the point where each of his individual terms saw the most prolific usage of them? Or how his state enslaved Libya?
In the meantime, voting is still better than not.
You are so insistent, but are yet to provide proof of that in the context of the US.
Which party did Stonewall and other such things - the actual things that improved LGBT rights, rather than politicians doing lip service after the fact?
Both parties are similarly awful in this regard.
Both parties want to use the economy to subjugate, torture, and kill people outside of NATO. That includes me, as well as a bunch of other people from this site, by the way.
Both parties are also interested in keeping your domestic working class in awful conditions.
So, for the vast majority of humanity, there is no difference here.
Notably, neither party has given you good healthcare despite their ability to.
Both parties support Pissrael. Stop memory holing the recent Dem administration’s full support for the genocide after its escalation (remember, the genocide started about a century ago at least), even doing things like the war crime pier.
Not even sure why you even think that the blue fascists have been in any way reconsidering support for their asset. This is, frankly, just your fan fiction.
You haven’t pointed to any differences between the parties other than that.
That’s a very low bar. Lying in bed and reading - especially educational stuff - would be more effective than voting in the US.
If it was as incorrect as you claim it to be, you would have been able to show results. And yet, it’s just a couple of centuries of failures, colonialism, and genocides.
Anyone who actually read your rebuttal thoughtfully would not be convinced. You are sidestepping every point. I point out who’s better on an issue today, you find a different issue to complain about, or dig into the historical record when there wasn’t yet differentiation on a question.
As a Cuban whether he’s worse off under Obama or Trump. Ask a woman trying to get an abortion in Florida. Ask the Israel lobby if they’re nervous about MI and KS still. They shovel money loke they’re scared. They hide McConnell like they’re scared.
I’m not saying that one can vote in revolutionary change, but voting absolutely matters. That’s why they try to restrict it. That’s why ungodly piles of cash get burned to influence it. That’s why spooks copy your rhetoric.
You claimed that one of the parties is better on LGBT rights. I pointed out that the blue fascists only pay lip service to it, and that relevant rights were won by other people. Decidedly not by voting.
You claimed that one of the parties is better on economic policy. I pointed out that the economic policies of both are geared towards subjugation, torture and killing of the rest of the world, as well as its own domestic working class.
You claimed that one of the parties gave you better healthcare when all you’ve been fed are scraps. At best, this is a ‘bad cop - good cop’ routine. Also, remind me, which administration cancelled the RvW?
You claimed that the party that built the war crime pier, has been enthusiastically supporting the escalation of the genocide with weapon supplies, defunded UNRWA to contribute to the genocide escalation, cracked down on protestors against the genocide, etc. is somehow not a steadfast supporter of Pissrael.
Your point about Pissrael is especially silly, I’ve got to add.
Ask a Libyan if they are better off after Obama turned their country into an open-air slave market.
Ask a person in Afghanistan if they were worse off while Obama was bombing their hospitals.
Oh, hey, let’s actually do that. Let’s also ask which administration repealed the RvW precedent, despite the presidents of the relevant party explicitly promising to enshrine it in the USian constitution for decades.
Oh? Were they nervous about Biden that was sending them military supplies to conduct a genocide and that built the war crime pier for them?
Voting in the US has produced approximately zero good results over its history.
‘They’ have been convincing you all this time that voting matters.
If you actually think that it matters, then why are you unable to point to the good results?
EDIT: Also, this:
https://mander.xyz/post/55288596?scrollToComments=true
All you can do is whataboutism and distraction.
You can point out every failure in shortcoming of the so-called left of the US government and it doesn’t fucking matter. They’re still to the left of the right. There’s still a discernible difference. Some things improve sometimes when one party gets into office, and most things get worse when the other gets in power. I don’t know how it works in your country, but here that counts as a difference. Sorry you can’t vote out capitalism over the next 4 years. That’ll have to be worked on some other way. In the meantime, voting is still better than not.
People who use the word ‘whataboutism’ unironically (i.e. when their hypocrisy is called out) are silly, should be disregarded, and should not be politically empowered.
This is especially silly after you tried to claim that the enslaver of Libya was good.
What am I distracting anybody from in this case? From the ‘strategy’ that your empire has convinced you of being fruitful, despite it yielding no results beneficial to the oppressed?
This is like saying that if one doesn’t support, say, Ernst Röhm, they are somehow bad, and that it doesn’t matter that he has “shortcomings”.
They are not to the left of the right. They are on the right. They have the same policies, and you can’t even claim that they are in opposition to the other part of your uniparty, as they literally fund their election candidates.
The only difference is aesthetics.
Which is what, exactly?
The negotiation for the removal of NATO’s troops from Afghanistan was negotiated under Trump, which is more than what I can say about the blue fascists.
Meanwhile, the other party’s administration undid the legal precedent for abortions that they promised to put in the constitution.
You mean how the ICE usage got worse under Obomber to the point where each of his individual terms saw the most prolific usage of them? Or how his state enslaved Libya?
You are so insistent, but are yet to provide proof of that in the context of the US.