• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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      12 hours ago

      Username not checking out at all. You can understand multiple things are true. That America is trash and seems hopeless, and also is important to people beyond its borders in many ways.

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        10 hours ago

        At what point would you be in favor of death to America? Your political project has gone genocidal, your economics have cemented ecocide, you’ve got secret police lynching people in the streets, and it has been shown beyond a reasonable doubt that your elected officials are all in a conspiracy to rape and traffic children. I’m guessing there is no point where you’d have any semblance of camaraderie with the third world.

        The main character syndrome in your comment is palpable.

        “Sure, we’ve done a bit of genociding Jewish people, but death to the Third Reich? Slow your roll. What about all of the people who depend on our beautiful Mercedes? What about how we as 30s germans are crucial to the international economy? Some sort of depression would increase worldwide suffering”

        Just because you are a foundational world economy doesn’t mean you get to do genocide. Fuck outta here with this handwringing, pearl clutching, imperialist, liberal, genocide apologia masquerading as utilitarianism.

        Just keep in mind the rest of the world hates you.

        “Which country is the biggest threat to world peace?”

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          9 hours ago

          What the fuck does death to America even mean? You’re super pissed at me because of a bunch of shit you made up about me and I’m not engaging anymore unless you calm down and explain what that even means first.

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            8 hours ago

            It means death to the American experiment. It’s a failure. Fucking read what your country has done since WWII. You are the bad guys.

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              8 hours ago

              What does that mean? Killing civilians? Since it sounds like you’re advocating for murder but are too chicken shit to admit it. So you say all this other shit because it means you don’t have to explain the murders you believe should be committed.

              Good strategy /s

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                8 hours ago

                IT MEANS SANCTIONING YOUR COUNTRY OUT OF EXISTENCE, HOPEFULLY BALKANIZATION.

                Which part of that condones murder of civilians. Are you unable to read, or are you pretending not to have registered this very salient point that I’ve already made?

                I’m chicken shit for calling for the downfall of the global hegemony, but you’re brave for defending the murder of countless civilians. What a cool mindset you have.

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                “Amerikkka” as an entity ceases to exist, it’s government vacated, the area that was formerly “USA” divided into however many independent states. This can happen without any violence, though that’s probably not likely. Everyday that the US exists people are murdered by American troops. To end the US would save countless lives. Fuck Amerikkka, Death to Amerikkka, I say this as a buddhist who abhors killing.

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        12 hours ago

        I can understand dozens of illegal wars, CIA black site torture dungeons, coups, mercenary groups, and dead civilians.

        Genocide and slavery.

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          12 hours ago

          Doesn’t address what I said. You cannot disprove someone’s ideas by changing the subject like you did with both me and the person who responded above. Yes america sucks. Doesn’t mean we should blindly hope for it to fail, ignoring all the fallout that innocent people will suffer. Accelerationists are the worst.

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          12 hours ago

          That just seems to be par for the fucking course this day and age for super powers and their vassal states. So unless you live in isolation or are currently typing from Palestine you are part of it all too.

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            12 hours ago

            That’s not what we’re talking about here lol, america is the global hegemon, and because of that they are uniquely equipped to mass produce death, destruction, and misery.

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              11 hours ago

              I don’t know if you have been paying attention since 2016, fuck since 9/11, but America is not THE global hegemonic power anymore. And hasn’t been for a long time. And it is what we are talking about here because you. Have laid out a laundry list of things that America is surely guilty of and want to murder Americans and I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of just singling out America as the only hegemony with a list like this. As if it were the only country doing/having done these things. Sure it’s a whatabout but within this context it’s a very important whatabout.

              Just out of curiosity where are you from?

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                11 hours ago

                What the fuck are you talking about murder Americans? I said death to America, is America a person? America is a country. Your country needs to be sanctioned out of existence and balkanized.

                Wow what a surprise, you wanna know where I’m from so you can try and make me feel shitty about the things my country has done. Let’s stay on the topic of how shitty America is, please. Start your own comment chain if that’s not to your taste.

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                  11 hours ago

                  I don’t need you to feel shitty about where you live.

                  Death to America is a slogan that doesn’t exist in an innocuous vacuum where it translates to balkanize America (which would be utterly catastrophic for everyone like we were talking about.)

                  And I would like to know where you are from. I am very very familiar with how shitty America is. I am not however familiar with you, where you are from, or if you are even a real person.

                  I would prefer to see my country reformed. Not sure that’s going to happen. But you want to destroy America and think that doesn’t involve killing Americans than I don’t know what to tell you.