• UnspecificGravity@piefed.social
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    Don’t worry. The insurance companies and doctors will get the rest anyways. We have a whole system of parasites to make sure that no generational wealth gets passed along.

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      It’s hospitals not doctors. Doctors get all that money only when they run their own private practice, and life support rooms are all in big hospitals, so the money is distributed between insurance and hospital management, and doctors get paid like all other skilled workers, and probably less than scuba diving welders.

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      Yeah, my parents told me once that when my grandparents pass away there was a nice chunk of money that would be coming. I never planned around it or anything. Some time after they passed I was a little curious about it and asked what happened, that was pretty much what they said, that it probably had all been used up by hospital and nursing home bills. End of life care is the last chance to suck up that dough, I guess.

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        My mom got money from her grandparents, almost half a mil. She told her own mother to just spend it all now (&on her) because they could file title 9 anyway, so mine as well enjoy it.

        I too never planned on getting anything anyway. They hate all us children its bizarre.

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          We in the USA have a pretty good standard of living, but holy fuck the government is unwilling to pass any consumer protections. Just let the corps fuck us because they’re the ones making political donations.

          • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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            The US government used to pass consumer protections, worker protections, environmental protections, etc. to the point of being a leader in many ways for other parts of the world.

            And then Reagan happened.

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              Yup, but Reagan just opened the gates. Several other presidents have followed his lead.

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            I would thunk a good portion of you have a good standard of living but quite possibly a majority basically live in 3rd world poverty conditions and constant debt, stress, and exposure to violence.

            There’s just enough Americans living in decent to good conditions to make it look like the American dream is alive, since the cameras don’t focus on the less fortunate.

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              I’ve traveled all over and have seen the poverty of South America and Africa first hand. I would much rather be poor in America than there.

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            I live in Canada and we have pretty good standards of living here. Up to and including not going financially bankrupt if we get sick or injured.

            My partner broke their leg last year. Between the 6-8 hospital visits, xrays, two casts, and an air boot, we paid a grand total of around $120. Less than $20 for paid parking (I’m lazy and it was like $2 a day) and $100 for the boot of which I got $85 from my work insurance. Everything else was completely covered by our provincial care.

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          Ugh, lucky. My friend is even getting Canadian citizenship now thanks to a recent law change there and his grandmother being a Canadian citizen.

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      My observation is that doctors are getting squeezed, other staff moreso. They’re getting pushed harder and harder for more and more productivity out of them.

      A doctor in my family quit and retired early because (basically) their group got more corporate and burned him out. I heard of a dentist who quit over ethics issues once their group was acquired by private equity.

      Not that they aren’t well off, but I’d be careful blaming working professionals like doctors, engineers and such so much.

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        The doctors aren’t the direct problem, just complicit in the evil money scam that is American healthcare.

        Sure they aren’t directly to blame, but so long as they “just do their jobs” they are knowingly and willfully complicit and need to be held accountable as such.

        A dentist that does non-necessary procedures, like filing cabinets or pre-emptive fillings, causes harm.

        A doctor that delays or prevents life-saving procedures because insurance tells them to causes death.

        An engineer who doesn’t question “why does this licence plate reader need to have facial recognition?” causes fascism.

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          A dentist that does non-necessary procedures, like filing cabinets or pre-emptive fillings, causes harm.

          I agree. I’ll do my own filing cabinets and he can stick to dentistry.

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          What you describe is exactly why the dentist got fired once a VC bought out the region, and partly why the doctor burned out.

          They are questioning.

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            And why they are no longer professionals and how you know the ones that are still working are not questioning.

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      I’m a huge fan of not passing along any substantial generational wealth. Above certain threshold - I’ll give it 15 times of country’s median annual income - it only serves to accumulate wealth.

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        Not accumulating generational wealth is only viable in a world where social services provide for everyone.

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          Very much agreed, but still - no hard limits in terms of heritage only supports a class of parasitic elite.

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        I was interested to see how the numbers would play out for this idea

        According to https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/median-household-income-by-state the median household income for a single person is $41,382 in the United States. 15 times that would be $620,730

        According to https://wealthvieu.com/average-inheritance/#average-and-median-inheritance 92% of inheritances would be well underneath this amount

        Assuming that your limit was meant to apply to individual recipients and not to the entire estate, this seems like a pretty modest proposal to me.

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          I’m sorry but biting into that particular number was rather counterproductive, as it was arbitrary - make it 50 if you care, but my point still stands. Armed elite’s successors are the armed elite still, but we can counter that. It would still leave them with funds to afford some very comfortable living, just no longer enough to terrorize the world.

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            I’m sorry if it came off that way, but I was not trying to be critical of your idea at all - I was trying to see how many people would be impacted, and I think you could easily get away with limiting the amount of inheritance even further.

            I think being a worker gives a person perspective that is critical to their development, and no one should inherit or be given enough money that they never have to do any work in their life.

            Not only does unrestricted inheritance directly cause the development of a disconnected wealthy class, but it’s also bad for the people who inherit too much.