• MorPolitics@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    I don’t understand. The idea that inadequate border control policies & immigration policies can lead to mass migration into a country seems quite objective to me. I’d say I’d be making an empirical claim thingo there, no? Did I mess up some phrasing or something earlier?

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      8 hours ago

      You understood “open borders” is subject to wildly different interpretations yet you still used it because it represents what you want to convey the best: Your personal feelings.

      There’s no way to measure the following as they are weasel words for people’s feelings because they represent goals or thresholds nobody agrees on and people can always say they’re upset about them regardless of measurable outcomes.

      • border patrol ‘adequacy’
      • ‘openness’ of borders
      • ‘mass migration’

      There’s way to measure:

      • legal immigration numbers
      • misdemeanor border crossings
      • costs and results of border enforcement
      • asylum seekers and rejection rates
      • tourist crossings
      • visa types and issues
      • immigration quotas
      • visa and tourist overstays
      • enforcement actions

      Which measurable outcomes are you actually upset about?