• Left as Center@jlai.lu
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      They are here to enforce the rules.

      When they grow up, you can explain how rules are made to fuck the poor.

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      Kids have a simplistic worldview. “They catch bad guys” is probably enough.

      The truth of course is pretty different… But I don’t think they have the context needed to understand that.

      But then again if you just say that then you won’t have a kid this cool:

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        It’s simple enough unless you have brown skin. Then unfortunately you need to have a deeper conversation from a much younger age.

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          I’ve been having more nuanced discussions with my white kid since he’s been asking too (8 yo) It’s important for everyone to know.

          Then again my dad taught me the same, he got tear gassed protesting Vietnam and was harassed for having long hair in the 70s.

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          Or even if your kid is white but goes to school with black kids. I don’t want him living in a different reality than them. He’s going to have to know cops aren’t always good, and we’ve started explaining already. He’s 3 and they have already sent copaganda coloring books home, really alarming shit.

          I have been toying with the idea of writing a children’s book about this, and one about comparative religion for toddlers (your grandmother’s Jesus stories are just stories, kiddo) but publishing children’s books is hard even if they’re not controversial, so, no that won’t be happening.

          • h0rnman@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            publishing children’s books is hard even if they’re not controversial, so, no that won’t be happening.

            The absolute glut of ai slop books on Amazon would seem to indicate otherwise

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            He’s 3 and they have already sent copaganda coloring books home, really alarming shit.

            What were they about

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              Teaching kids words like “suspect” and “officer” and “stun device” (not kidding). Meant to teach kids that cops are friendly.

              His mom looked it up, and the cop who “wrote” the book has been charged with spousal rape, so, yeah.

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          True. I don’t have kids. What’s the best way?

          I mean in an emergency not caused by the police, they’re probably who you want kids to turn to.

          In other situations not so much.

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    Cops are human, and like all humans they can make mistakes and have flaws just like us. Yes their jobs is to protect us but its OK to ask questions.

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      Yes their jobs is to protect us

      actually the Supreme Court specifically said it isn’t, you don’t seem to know what you’re talking about

      You’re also conflating a group of individuals with the system that they choose to join. Individual cops are human, sure, but The Police are not, and they hold special legal privileges that make each and every one a danger to humans everywhere they patrol. And since joining The Police is a choice, individual cops may be judged accordingly for willingly becoming part of that system.

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        Ok so all police are bad, even if there are good hearted individuals that try to make a difference in a community, just because they joined a police force. I find that logic silly and extremely rigid, but fine. What exactly is your alternative? What should be happening instead? Maintaining a basic rule of law and society is kind of important, and as fucked up police forces are they’re fulfilling some of the tasks. The problem is more about how to have accountability in police forces, not just wholesale disenfranchisement. Divisive dismissing of any race, group, organization or entity isn’t helpful and is ignorant. It makes the problems worst, not better. You become what you loathe.

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        The world is not black and white, painting a black picture of a whole group, without middle ground, is ignorant and unhelpful. This is coming frame a raging liberal. Be rationale, intelligent, not reactive.

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          BIPOC, when seeing a cop, do not stop and think “Well I wonder if this is a good one or a bad one.” They just make a split second recognition and go with it - for their own safety. To them, cops are dangerous. So to me, cops are dangerous. If cops don’t want that reputation, well they need to make some big changes.

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            Asking the civilised people here:

            When do you think USAmericans will realise that there is a world outside their country?

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          Billionaires are also all black with no white in them.

          Cops protect them, not us.

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      Sir this is lemmy, you are contradicting the tankie hivemind/narrative

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        Exactly, this is Lemmy. A decentralised platform with many varying viewpoints from tankies, to fascists, to anarchists, to the apolitical, and everything else. There is no hivemind.

        I would have thought somebody from one of the more niche servers, which has a focus on science and being apolitical, would understand that. But I guess not.