• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    he refused to sit next to a woman, citing Sharia law, and later assaulted a female flight attendant who intervened.
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    Authorities identified the suspect only as a Turkish national living in Germany.

    That level of disrespect for the values of a democracy should get you expelled IMO.
    This is an extreme level of sexist discrimination, that goes against fundamental values of a modern democracy.
    This kind of people is not fit to live in a democracy.
    Fining him and maybe even sending him to jail for a few months will not teach such a person anything, but will only radicalize him further against the values of democracy.

      • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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        2 months ago

        “Christian extremists” always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. A real Christian extremist would be giving away everything they owned and responding to all violence with pacifism. I think Christofascism usually fits better.

          • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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            2 months ago

            No, he didn’t — at least not in any Biblically recorded passage. And the one time one of his apostles took his metaphors literally and wielded a sword, he was chastised for it.

            There’s nothing by Jesus in the Bible stating that a person should defend themselves. There is, however, a command that if someone demands your cloak, to give them your tunic as well, and as far as you are able, to be at peace with those around you.

            All the “fight in the name of Christianity” stuff is from Constantine and later.

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      This is an extreme level of sexist discrimination, that goes against fundamental values of a modern democracy.

      Well that escalated quickly. More seriously, while the man in the OP is definitely entitled, what he wanted was not inherently sexist. Having strict beliefs about cross-gender contact can lead to sexism, but isn’t that in and of itself. Most cultures out there put some limit on what unrelated men and women can do or where they can be together, and those limits can be fairly benign as long as they don’t lead people to do things like assault flight attendants.

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        2 months ago

        If you’re choosing to do or not do something with someone because of their sex/gender it’s sexist. Simple as that. I don’t care if those beliefs are due to religion or not.

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          That must be quite the surprise to people who only enter romantic relationships with the sex they’re attracted to.

          More seriously, sexism is specifically prejudice based on sex, and it’s bad for obvious reasons (the fact that it causes harm to the sex suffering from such prejudice). If you want to expand the definition to include “choosing to do or not do something with someone because of their sex/gender” (we’ll call this sexism+) you’ll have to argue that sexism+ is rooted in regular sexism. This isn’t something you can just assume (well you can, but what can be claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence).