I’d understand or join with the lefty never-voting-anti-capitalist tankies if they had a plan, or a strategy, or a goal, or a coalition they were building towards. But there is nothing. No movement, no goals, no aims to achieve political power. It’s all virtue signaling. We have people from Syria and Palestine literally begging the lefties to cease their rhetoric because it’s causing more harm than good. But the reality is lefties aren’t interested in solutions. They want to feel good about their online social media activism and watch Hassan Piker stream from a luxury hotel in Cuba while 90% of the country goes without electricity. That is the peak american socialist movement.
claims to understand their ideology (or lack thereof)
Try getting involved with real world leftist groups instead of just the online ones. And not PSL either lol. The goal is building class consciousness and solidarity, and that’s a slow fuckin slog in America, so it doesn’t look exciting or like things aren’t being handled with the appropriate urgency but it needs to be done. We cannot do anything if we aren’t organized, we cannot organize if we are all being exploited every moment of our lives.
Also Green Party candidates won 57% of the local elections they ran in (in 2024 or 2025, not sure which) if you’re more the electoral politics type (which imo is far less potent than the community organizing type, though there’s no reason you can’t do both).
Hasan Piker is a grifter, I’m with you there though.
I would like to see the online members bridge the connection to real world activism with real call to actions. I do plan to get involved in real world organizations again as I’ve been involved in the past tangentially. That being said, without some type of coalition building and community activism it becomes stale. I’m all about that class consciousness, but there is the difference between “being” and “doing”, and the reality is only the latter matters.
I’d take the green party more seriously if they ditched Jill Stein. 159 local seats is not nothing, but if you take into account the entire life span of the green party, it’s not great either. We need to make real world strides, and I don’t think that’s accomplished by deriding liberals or democrats non-stop. It just won’t work.
I’d understand or join with the lefty never-voting-anti-capitalist tankies if they had a plan, or a strategy, or a goal, or a coalition they were building towards. But there is nothing. No movement, no goals, no aims to achieve political power. It’s all virtue signaling. We have people from Syria and Palestine literally begging the lefties to cease their rhetoric because it’s causing more harm than good. But the reality is lefties aren’t interested in solutions. They want to feel good about their online social media activism and watch Hassan Piker stream from a luxury hotel in Cuba while 90% of the country goes without electricity. That is the peak american socialist movement.
Try getting involved with real world leftist groups instead of just the online ones. And not PSL either lol. The goal is building class consciousness and solidarity, and that’s a slow fuckin slog in America, so it doesn’t look exciting or like things aren’t being handled with the appropriate urgency but it needs to be done. We cannot do anything if we aren’t organized, we cannot organize if we are all being exploited every moment of our lives.
Also Green Party candidates won 57% of the local elections they ran in (in 2024 or 2025, not sure which) if you’re more the electoral politics type (which imo is far less potent than the community organizing type, though there’s no reason you can’t do both).
Hasan Piker is a grifter, I’m with you there though.
I would like to see the online members bridge the connection to real world activism with real call to actions. I do plan to get involved in real world organizations again as I’ve been involved in the past tangentially. That being said, without some type of coalition building and community activism it becomes stale. I’m all about that class consciousness, but there is the difference between “being” and “doing”, and the reality is only the latter matters.
I’d take the green party more seriously if they ditched Jill Stein. 159 local seats is not nothing, but if you take into account the entire life span of the green party, it’s not great either. We need to make real world strides, and I don’t think that’s accomplished by deriding liberals or democrats non-stop. It just won’t work.
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The green party is tiny and has tiny primaries. And their primaries actually happen. We could walk in and take it over pretty easily.
Being content while the party continues its sprint to the right will certainly accomplish what you want.
If the Green Party has a future, I think it’s Butch Ware. I’m a much bigger fan of his though I really have no problems with Jill Stein either.
go join a marxist leninist org (literally any of them would do even tho most of them are garbage) and educate people, raise awareness