Pretty trivially easy question.
Biden could have done a lot of things – vetoed funding and stopped running interference for Israel in the UN. And he could have called it a genocide and illegal on the world stage. Biden refused to call it a genocide. He could have called for an international force to stop the killing. He also flew recon missions for the Israelis with US drones over Gaza didnt he.
And “starting a war”? with who, Israel? Are you stupid? That war would last 5 minutes. Biden took massive amounts of money from AIPAC his entire career, and called himself a zionist all the time. Your pretending he had no choice and was simply a victim of circumstance is pure lies. He was massively bribed. A corrupt peice of shit genocide supporter. He would absolutely lose his case and be imprisoned if the US had done the right thing and signed onto the ICC. He belongs in an orange jumpsuit, sharing a cell with trump.
A war with iran. Because trump won we have now killed dozens/hundreds of iranians. People that would not have died if harris had won. So again what would biden/harris have done that would have amounted to starting a war. Are you stupid…
No im not. Those iranians wouldnt have died if trump was not in office. Everyone who didnt do all they could to stop his assention is responsible for their deaths. They would not have died if kamela had won. The palestiniams would have died either way so they do not change the equation at all.
The gall to ignore the deaths of Iranian civilians while saying this
Just admit you prefer to let more innocent people get hurt as long at you can claim your hands are clean. If you can’t uphold your purity you would rather let people die
Something else to think about? If you voted third party or sat out, your hands aren’t necessarily clean ofgenocide. Do you pay federal income tax?
I would argue that contributing thousands of unaccountable $ to the federal government which you know is going to engage in violence and empire building makes one much more morally culpable for US actions than a single vote for president in a single election.
Can those who think the moral action was to not vote at all or not vote D or R because that is support for genocide, but who pay federal income tax, care to explain how their hands are clean?
To bring it back to the trolley problem, it’s like refusing to pull the lever because to do so would be to acknowledge that the entire exercise is ethical or otherwise valid, while forgetting to mention that you personally financed that specific trolley and stretch of track.
I suspect there a certain kind of person that is only interested in taking moral or ethical stands if the personal consequences for doing so are zero. How long do we think it would take for either major party to start begging the electorate to tell them how to behave if a significant majority of the populace decided today to stop going to work and to stop paying any taxes?
No i didnt. I voted for harris to try and stop this bullshit. YOU got what you wanted. Harris lost and now the world must contend with the consequences and even more people will die.
You got genocide and no centrist has ever wanted anything else.
I voted for harris to try and stop this bullshit.
I voted for harris. I will never forgive myself for voting for genocide just because it was the less horrible option. You voted for genocide first, candidate second.
Harris lost and now the world must contend with the consequences and even more people will die.
You got the only thing you ever wanted. Stop griping that your close second choice is doing it instead of your first choice.
Stop pretending other people are responsible for YOUR choices, you monster
You’re just not believable. Everything you say appear crafted to convince people to stop opposing Republicans’ acceleration of genocide. You’re trying to convince people to stop taking action to oppose evil, to settle for just complaining about it.
You want people to stop taking action and stop making better choices because no choice is pure enough. But instead that makes you responsible when the worst outcomes happen
You’re trying to convince people to stop taking action to oppose evil, to settle for just complaining about it.
I’m trying to get people to kick the worthless genocidal shit you worship to the curb where they belong. I advocate for the honest primaries you don’t want because dishonest primaries are the only thing keeping your genocidal shit in office where you want anyone who wants to murder Palestinian children for your entertainment.
Pretty trivially easy question. Biden could have done a lot of things – vetoed funding and stopped running interference for Israel in the UN. And he could have called it a genocide and illegal on the world stage. Biden refused to call it a genocide. He could have called for an international force to stop the killing. He also flew recon missions for the Israelis with US drones over Gaza didnt he.
And “starting a war”? with who, Israel? Are you stupid? That war would last 5 minutes. Biden took massive amounts of money from AIPAC his entire career, and called himself a zionist all the time. Your pretending he had no choice and was simply a victim of circumstance is pure lies. He was massively bribed. A corrupt peice of shit genocide supporter. He would absolutely lose his case and be imprisoned if the US had done the right thing and signed onto the ICC. He belongs in an orange jumpsuit, sharing a cell with trump.
If you’re 100% right why did Netanyahu want to get rid of him?
Why has NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU responded to this question with anything but insults?
A war with iran. Because trump won we have now killed dozens/hundreds of iranians. People that would not have died if harris had won. So again what would biden/harris have done that would have amounted to starting a war. Are you stupid…
You are happy to accept this as long as no one had a non-genocidal candidate to vote for.
No im not. Those iranians wouldnt have died if trump was not in office. Everyone who didnt do all they could to stop his assention is responsible for their deaths. They would not have died if kamela had won. The palestiniams would have died either way so they do not change the equation at all.
Good for you. You got all you ever wanted.
The gall to ignore the deaths of Iranian civilians while saying this
Just admit you prefer to let more innocent people get hurt as long at you can claim your hands are clean. If you can’t uphold your purity you would rather let people die
Something else to think about? If you voted third party or sat out, your hands aren’t necessarily clean ofgenocide. Do you pay federal income tax?
I would argue that contributing thousands of unaccountable $ to the federal government which you know is going to engage in violence and empire building makes one much more morally culpable for US actions than a single vote for president in a single election.
Can those who think the moral action was to not vote at all or not vote D or R because that is support for genocide, but who pay federal income tax, care to explain how their hands are clean?
To bring it back to the trolley problem, it’s like refusing to pull the lever because to do so would be to acknowledge that the entire exercise is ethical or otherwise valid, while forgetting to mention that you personally financed that specific trolley and stretch of track.
I suspect there a certain kind of person that is only interested in taking moral or ethical stands if the personal consequences for doing so are zero. How long do we think it would take for either major party to start begging the electorate to tell them how to behave if a significant majority of the populace decided today to stop going to work and to stop paying any taxes?
It must really bother you that you have to pretend that you don’t love it.
No i didnt. I voted for harris to try and stop this bullshit. YOU got what you wanted. Harris lost and now the world must contend with the consequences and even more people will die.
You got genocide and no centrist has ever wanted anything else.
I voted for harris. I will never forgive myself for voting for genocide just because it was the less horrible option. You voted for genocide first, candidate second.
You got the only thing you ever wanted. Stop griping that your close second choice is doing it instead of your first choice.
Stop pretending other people are responsible for YOUR choices, you monster
You’re just not believable. Everything you say appear crafted to convince people to stop opposing Republicans’ acceleration of genocide. You’re trying to convince people to stop taking action to oppose evil, to settle for just complaining about it.
You want people to stop taking action and stop making better choices because no choice is pure enough. But instead that makes you responsible when the worst outcomes happen
I’m trying to get people to kick the worthless genocidal shit you worship to the curb where they belong. I advocate for the honest primaries you don’t want because dishonest primaries are the only thing keeping your genocidal shit in office where you want anyone who wants to murder Palestinian children for your entertainment.