this garbage again. now it’s voter fault that they forced a superpac shill who told the voters to stfu while bombing kids in refugee camp and let megacorps fck working class. this time they didn’t even bothered with a sham primary like hillary or biden.
all mainstream dems other than aoc, warren and bernie are still spitting on its base. has harris or dem leadership done one thing to change their stance or support its people after election ?
keep voting lesser evil and you will keep getting two faced snakes with better propaganda.
It’s the voters’ fault they didn’t vote? Uh, yeah. It is.
If you’d voted the lesser evil you wouldn’t currently be stuck in the fourth reich. But please, keep preaching from your high horse until ICE forceably knocks you off it.
Why are you whining about these shitlibs who won’t change their view? You won’t get centrist Democrats moving to you. You need to replace these people through primaries.
Is that the excuse not to vote, if you’re in that country? So you got something to whine about?
Aren’t there primaries going on now? If so and you haven’t, why aren’t you voting for or helping out your chosen candidate, one who isn’t a shitlib?
You need to replace these people through primaries.
The primaries where the party selectively protects centrist incumbents like Henry Cuellar, but not progressive incumbents like Cori Bush or Jamaal Bowman. The primaries we didn’t even get in the 2024 presidential election. The primaries that the party successfully argued in court that they don’t have to run honestly.
Don’t treat primaries like a panacea to people who no longer trust the primary process.
Oh fuck off with this. Your wing of the party found endless excuses for not doing what they campaigned on. Your wing of the party found the votes to block everything. Until netanyahu wanted weapons, then all those excuses vanished instantly and the law was no impediment.
Republicans fight for the reprehensible shit republican voters want. It’s too bad that’s also what you fight for while expecting lockstep fealty.
Nup, it’s the truth. Can’t vote because job. Candidate is not perfect and is responsible for some one else actions overseas. I didn’t vote for him. I can’t do anything. It was rigged. My vote doesn’t make a difference. Take a card ay. Every American has an excuse, they just build it around their situation.
Your wing
Not an American. Listen to Obama. Don’t whinge, vote. For the record, I agree, the centrist Democrats are very disappointing and quite beholden to bad actors.
Your wing…found the votes to block everything
Take that up with them, but having Harris as your president now would definitely be better for you and everyone.
Netanyahu
Set this up years ago with Epstein and got the ball rolling for this by instigating this with his Hamas mates. All done so Americans willing to hold Democrats responsible for that attack through emotional appeal via genocide, and they came in hook, line and sinker. Played. Disgracefully I might add.
It’s not the first time, they tried similar shit on Clinton, remember? Another terrible candidate. We’d still be in a better place had she won though.
Republicans fight for the reprehensible shit
Yes. We have been saying this for years. Back then it was ‘I don’t gave to bite, it’s my right, mind your own business’. Without realising, as you see now, what weight that vote has. Another reason to respect it.
what you fight for while expecting lockstep fealty
I repeat, I am not one of these people you want to pigeonhole me as. I want you all to vote, participate and take politics seriously. Recognise your system, as it stands, offers only one way to fix it and that is to graft it out by voting for your people and backing them. That’s it. If I see Newsom as the runner I know you will have failed the primary and that will be on you. I don’t want Newsom, I want your progressive. Don’t let us down again.
did i say anything about not voting in primaries ?
harris didn’t even get 1000 votes in 2020 primaries and was made vp in place of warren who came third with 3 million votes. what primaries were there in 24 ? its interesting that close to midterms we are again seeing this “lesser evil” jargon to sell garbage candidates backed by aipac and dnc elites
i am voting all the primaries, but i am not voting for some trash like newsom even if he wins in 28 primaries by 99%.
instead of palantir and oracle like trump, he will be killing working class for all the ai parasites like openai and meta.
You said sham, which indicates by proxy a lack of desire to participate.
harris didn’t get…was made vp…
Yes, I said shitlibs won’t change. Primaries have nothing to do with who gets picked as VP. They’re there for you to put who you want in as runner. Works well enough for the other team.
What primaries…
None, shitlibs.
Its interesting…
Really? Why are you surprised? Fun fact: this has been going on for a long, long time. Why? Because the people don’t vote in numbers, not do they understand their system well enough to get it to work for them.
You know who does? Yep, Republicans. They do this time in time out and religiously. They don’t piss and moan about this candidate or that; they vote the nutbag in at primary time then follow up. They do, not whinge.
I am voting all the primaries
Good, if you and enough others do it, you should get your candidate.
but I am not voting for some trash line Newsom
Who is better than Trump, if he’s the candidate and you don’t nothing changes and your system allows no other approach. You will be letting your country down again.
instead of palantir and trump
If you think Newsom is as bad as Trump you’re outright stupid.
I don’t. Get out there in the primaries, make sure it’s not him.
More gloating from the genocide wing that rigs and prevents primaries in such a way that non-genocidal candidates are shut out of the process, not by the voters but by the party apparatus.
But for fuck sake if that fails, don’t abstain.
I fucking didn’t. But that will NEVER stop you genocide lovers from assuming that anyone who isn’t as delighted by genocide as you have always been and always will be doesn’t already vote for what you pretend is harm reduction. You would have voted for trump all three times if his opponent had breathed a word to indicate that they would actually follow the law regarding supplying weapons for genocide.
Hahaha bright eyes I’m not the one who elected and us going through all this ay. I wouldn’t be pulling that shit on if I were you
more gloating from the genocide wing
More tribal American shit from tribal Americans who cannot think beyond their movement in politics.
rigs and prevents
Republicans have had no issues with it for the past…decades…
in such a way that
You say that, I reckon it’s just simply not enough of you voting
But yes, it’s on me and my tribe, my wing. I helped prevent your candidates from getting there.
I fucking didn’t
Excellent.
but tgat will never stop you genocide lovers
Yep, totally support the actions of Israel, you said so and will keep doing so regardless if tge truth because your points hinge on that necessity; I must be a Zionist
you would have voted for Trump
This is a stupid fuckin statement and deserves little regard.
As a foreigner, I’ve been opposing Trump openly since he ran the first time. I’ve called this shit since Gingrich and Ryan were obstructing Obama. Back then you were telling us it couldn’t happen, the Supreme Court would stop it, I knew you fools would let the country fall. I hoped you wouldn’t do it twice, but here we are.
You’ll do it again too, if you’re lucky enough to get a reprieve.
Back then you were telling us it couldn’t happen, the Supreme Court would stop it, I knew you fools would let the country fall. I hoped you wouldn’t do it twice, but here we are.
I was doing nothing of the sort. I was doing the same thing I’m doing now, being upset at centrist democrats for capitulating to fascists every chance they get.
“this time sham” meant the 24 primaries where the democratic candidate was selected for us based on the most obedient pet for superpacs and israel.
as for other points, i dont give a shit what republicans do. if a candidate doesn’t meet the minimum standards, no one should be voting for them. we will never get a candidate like obama or sanders ever again if we keep voting snakes painted in fake blue color. and sooner or later they will as bad as red snakes. or worse
dnc elites only stopped whining about mamdani during the primaries when it became clear its helping him as most nyc voters hated them as much as republicans
Didn’t happen because the incumbent was originally running. That only changed because it became apparent he’d get flogged.
The ones who did have primaries were Republicans, though they all pulled out when…it became apparent who they’d all vote for. Hmm.
I don’t give a shit what Republicans do
I would. They school you pretty much every election, both the centrists and the left.
Sanders
Was an independent and never getting their support.
Obama
Is a centrist and not that much better than Harris so I’m not sure where you’re headed with that. That said, Obama was a very good president. I have no doubt Harris would have at least been better than Trump and here’s the kicker…there’d certainly be no war and there’d be a peace process underway in Gaza.
sooner or later they will be as bad as red snakes
I hear this a lot but have yet to see it come to fruition, as tepid as they are
DNC elites
Never stopped whining about Mamdani until the last gasp, so much so, one ran against him. They don’t change and you will not drag them to it. You’ll kill your country trying though.
ofcourse there won’t be war. it will be a special military op with a much better propaganda and likely dragging other nato countries in it too.
iran war was already decided by people who control both party leaders even before the election. only way it wouldn’t have happened was a 3rd party winning which can’t happen (or warren or bernie wining 2020)
do you know both harris and pelosi worked hard to defund a california state initiative to help independent candidates get basic financial support on getting enough votes ?
go through her political carrier, she had always been a out of touch hack who would have easily joined trump like tulsi if it meant better prospects. she had taken millions from aipac and married to a rich ultra zionist lawyer. i have no doubt she will be negotiating relelection campaign in return of turning tehran to gaza and murdering iranian kids by labelling them hamas
Well good for you champion and good for your link. Under Harris there’d have been a shitload more vetting for a start. There is no way she’d have carried out the strikes Trump has nor allowed the Israelis to do the same.
Harris comments do not interpret into a full scale attack. In fact there’s nothing there that says her intention isn’t to use negotiation or soft power to achieve that. What actually was going on before…well, you non voting or Trump voting clowns I guess. The rest is history.
I’m well aware she’s an out of touch hack as you put it, but this war was started because Netanyahu has full control over the fool Americans elected again. That was why Netanyahu conspired with Hamas to start that attack in the first place…to fool Americans into not voting for Biden and by extension Harris. To fool them into not voting, plus start the holy war he’s wanted to start for decades.
You were all played, and easily too. All it took was some great espionage thanks to Epstein and knowledge that a massive portion of American voters are lazy, stupid, awful people and easily played. That you continue go in with your view that she would have been as bad is childish. Well it’s a fart sniffing exercise as we know, but anyway. Yeah, sure, she’ll support Israel but this wouldn’t have been happening and anyone rational knows that.
i don’t understand, almost all of the logic in your reply is our democracy is a farce in two party system and we need to wipe out both parties and israel to have a any hope of future. but your conclusion is no we should keep participating in it with no minimum standards else one will “lazy stupid and awful” ?
and yes the presidential candidate who said not a single negative thing about isreal during her entire campaign and or did anything as vp to stop israel from bombing hospital tents or kids just collecting water would have done nothing different with iran other than crocodile tears once on a while for “unavoidable tragedies of war”
fuck her and may she rot in the same hell beside biden, trump and rest of maga trash.
I love how you call others shitlibs. Yikes, you’re like king of the liberals. Zero understanding of politics, just parroting terms you don’t understand.
Yeah righto. Keep losing while they keep voting. Well it might be too late for that now.
parroting terms you don’t understand
I understand the US voters failed the world and its own people by failing to vote or keep out bad candidates. For the rest I couldn’t care less what Americans think of me given what they’ve been responsible for recently.
there’d certainly be no war and there’d be a peace process underway in Gaza.
And this is why I have zero interest in “lesser evil” arguments: because even the people makeing them aren’t willing to accept the evil they are actually advocating for, they have to make to less evil versions in their heads to pretend are real.
That’s probably the worst part of this and one of the worst excuses you grubs give.
You have no idea of that to begin because you installed Trump, not Harris. For installing trump, which is your responsibility as a collective, there truly has been a genocide, one of the worst we’ve seen. Harris said he’d do this and he has. You’re guessing she would, based on your twisted belief she’s as bad (or your knowledge that you’re horribly wrong and can’t bust your ego)
Being a fart sniffer though, and the job of who you elected done for your excuses, you’re running the line that a government never elected would be worse.
I’m telling you nothing could be worse than what we gave and it’s bearing out.
Suck that fart in, people died for it. Beyond that I couldn’t care less what your view is, you’re American.
I’m glad ghouls like you are suffering: you deserve it, the world is a better place for it, and I’m happy I apparently had the power to make for suffer, and I will happily use that power I have to make you suffer in the future.
For installing trump, which is your responsibility as a collective, there truly has been a genocide
See? You’re a genocide denying fascist ghoul. Anyone who thinks that there was no Genocide in Gaza in 2023 deserves the same thing as their Nazi forefathers. To suffer and be destroyed.
this garbage again. now it’s voter fault that they forced a superpac shill who told the voters to stfu while bombing kids in refugee camp and let megacorps fck working class. this time they didn’t even bothered with a sham primary like hillary or biden.
all mainstream dems other than aoc, warren and bernie are still spitting on its base. has harris or dem leadership done one thing to change their stance or support its people after election ?
keep voting lesser evil and you will keep getting two faced snakes with better propaganda.
It’s the voters’ fault they didn’t vote? Uh, yeah. It is.
If you’d voted the lesser evil you wouldn’t currently be stuck in the fourth reich. But please, keep preaching from your high horse until ICE forceably knocks you off it.
Why are you whining about these shitlibs who won’t change their view? You won’t get centrist Democrats moving to you. You need to replace these people through primaries.
Is that the excuse not to vote, if you’re in that country? So you got something to whine about?
Aren’t there primaries going on now? If so and you haven’t, why aren’t you voting for or helping out your chosen candidate, one who isn’t a shitlib?
The primaries where the party selectively protects centrist incumbents like Henry Cuellar, but not progressive incumbents like Cori Bush or Jamaal Bowman. The primaries we didn’t even get in the 2024 presidential election. The primaries that the party successfully argued in court that they don’t have to run honestly.
Don’t treat primaries like a panacea to people who no longer trust the primary process.
God you people are full of excuses. They’re right; this is American resistance.
It works for the opposition well enough, and has for decades.
Oh fuck off with this. Your wing of the party found endless excuses for not doing what they campaigned on. Your wing of the party found the votes to block everything. Until netanyahu wanted weapons, then all those excuses vanished instantly and the law was no impediment.
Republicans fight for the reprehensible shit republican voters want. It’s too bad that’s also what you fight for while expecting lockstep fealty.
Nup, it’s the truth. Can’t vote because job. Candidate is not perfect and is responsible for some one else actions overseas. I didn’t vote for him. I can’t do anything. It was rigged. My vote doesn’t make a difference. Take a card ay. Every American has an excuse, they just build it around their situation.
Not an American. Listen to Obama. Don’t whinge, vote. For the record, I agree, the centrist Democrats are very disappointing and quite beholden to bad actors.
Take that up with them, but having Harris as your president now would definitely be better for you and everyone.
Set this up years ago with Epstein and got the ball rolling for this by instigating this with his Hamas mates. All done so Americans willing to hold Democrats responsible for that attack through emotional appeal via genocide, and they came in hook, line and sinker. Played. Disgracefully I might add.
It’s not the first time, they tried similar shit on Clinton, remember? Another terrible candidate. We’d still be in a better place had she won though.
Yes. We have been saying this for years. Back then it was ‘I don’t gave to bite, it’s my right, mind your own business’. Without realising, as you see now, what weight that vote has. Another reason to respect it.
I repeat, I am not one of these people you want to pigeonhole me as. I want you all to vote, participate and take politics seriously. Recognise your system, as it stands, offers only one way to fix it and that is to graft it out by voting for your people and backing them. That’s it. If I see Newsom as the runner I know you will have failed the primary and that will be on you. I don’t want Newsom, I want your progressive. Don’t let us down again.
Provided we always vote for genocide and nothing else.
Party leadership successfully argued in court that they have the right to rig the primaries so we only get whatever genocidal shit they and you want.,
No I want you to vote. If you do it the way you shoukd that shouldn’t happen, provided enough of you do.
I’m sorry. I’m not your Zionist.
And if AOC runs in the primary, I want you and others voting for her
A progressive, young candidate. I have for years. I would have been happy with Sanders. I know, it hurts, but fight it…I’m not who you want me to be
Bullshit. You are only happy when people vote for genocidal shit with a fake smile on their faces.
did i say anything about not voting in primaries ? harris didn’t even get 1000 votes in 2020 primaries and was made vp in place of warren who came third with 3 million votes. what primaries were there in 24 ? its interesting that close to midterms we are again seeing this “lesser evil” jargon to sell garbage candidates backed by aipac and dnc elites
i am voting all the primaries, but i am not voting for some trash like newsom even if he wins in 28 primaries by 99%. instead of palantir and oracle like trump, he will be killing working class for all the ai parasites like openai and meta.
You said sham, which indicates by proxy a lack of desire to participate.
Yes, I said shitlibs won’t change. Primaries have nothing to do with who gets picked as VP. They’re there for you to put who you want in as runner. Works well enough for the other team.
None, shitlibs.
Really? Why are you surprised? Fun fact: this has been going on for a long, long time. Why? Because the people don’t vote in numbers, not do they understand their system well enough to get it to work for them.
You know who does? Yep, Republicans. They do this time in time out and religiously. They don’t piss and moan about this candidate or that; they vote the nutbag in at primary time then follow up. They do, not whinge.
Good, if you and enough others do it, you should get your candidate.
Who is better than Trump, if he’s the candidate and you don’t nothing changes and your system allows no other approach. You will be letting your country down again.
If you think Newsom is as bad as Trump you’re outright stupid.
If you think he’s an acceptable candidate, you’ll be blaming everyone who tells you he’ll lose when it happens.
I don’t. Get out there in the primaries, make sure it’s not him.
But for fuck sake if that fails, don’t abstain. Vote the letter, like the winners do
That much is crystal clear.
More gloating from the genocide wing that rigs and prevents primaries in such a way that non-genocidal candidates are shut out of the process, not by the voters but by the party apparatus.
I fucking didn’t. But that will NEVER stop you genocide lovers from assuming that anyone who isn’t as delighted by genocide as you have always been and always will be doesn’t already vote for what you pretend is harm reduction. You would have voted for trump all three times if his opponent had breathed a word to indicate that they would actually follow the law regarding supplying weapons for genocide.
Hahaha bright eyes I’m not the one who elected and us going through all this ay. I wouldn’t be pulling that shit on if I were you
More tribal American shit from tribal Americans who cannot think beyond their movement in politics.
Republicans have had no issues with it for the past…decades…
You say that, I reckon it’s just simply not enough of you voting
But yes, it’s on me and my tribe, my wing. I helped prevent your candidates from getting there.
Excellent.
Yep, totally support the actions of Israel, you said so and will keep doing so regardless if tge truth because your points hinge on that necessity; I must be a Zionist
This is a stupid fuckin statement and deserves little regard.
As a foreigner, I’ve been opposing Trump openly since he ran the first time. I’ve called this shit since Gingrich and Ryan were obstructing Obama. Back then you were telling us it couldn’t happen, the Supreme Court would stop it, I knew you fools would let the country fall. I hoped you wouldn’t do it twice, but here we are.
You’ll do it again too, if you’re lucky enough to get a reprieve.
I was doing nothing of the sort. I was doing the same thing I’m doing now, being upset at centrist democrats for capitulating to fascists every chance they get.
“this time sham” meant the 24 primaries where the democratic candidate was selected for us based on the most obedient pet for superpacs and israel.
as for other points, i dont give a shit what republicans do. if a candidate doesn’t meet the minimum standards, no one should be voting for them. we will never get a candidate like obama or sanders ever again if we keep voting snakes painted in fake blue color. and sooner or later they will as bad as red snakes. or worse
dnc elites only stopped whining about mamdani during the primaries when it became clear its helping him as most nyc voters hated them as much as republicans
Didn’t happen because the incumbent was originally running. That only changed because it became apparent he’d get flogged.
The ones who did have primaries were Republicans, though they all pulled out when…it became apparent who they’d all vote for. Hmm.
I would. They school you pretty much every election, both the centrists and the left.
Was an independent and never getting their support.
Is a centrist and not that much better than Harris so I’m not sure where you’re headed with that. That said, Obama was a very good president. I have no doubt Harris would have at least been better than Trump and here’s the kicker…there’d certainly be no war and there’d be a peace process underway in Gaza.
I hear this a lot but have yet to see it come to fruition, as tepid as they are
Never stopped whining about Mamdani until the last gasp, so much so, one ran against him. They don’t change and you will not drag them to it. You’ll kill your country trying though.
good one, boy do i have bridges to sell you. and you were calling me stupid.
go through this Kamala Harris says Iran is ‘greatest adversary’ of US Democratic presidential candidate says preventing Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon is one of her top priorities.
ofcourse there won’t be war. it will be a special military op with a much better propaganda and likely dragging other nato countries in it too.
iran war was already decided by people who control both party leaders even before the election. only way it wouldn’t have happened was a 3rd party winning which can’t happen (or warren or bernie wining 2020)
do you know both harris and pelosi worked hard to defund a california state initiative to help independent candidates get basic financial support on getting enough votes ?
go through her political carrier, she had always been a out of touch hack who would have easily joined trump like tulsi if it meant better prospects. she had taken millions from aipac and married to a rich ultra zionist lawyer. i have no doubt she will be negotiating relelection campaign in return of turning tehran to gaza and murdering iranian kids by labelling them hamas
Well good for you champion and good for your link. Under Harris there’d have been a shitload more vetting for a start. There is no way she’d have carried out the strikes Trump has nor allowed the Israelis to do the same.
Harris comments do not interpret into a full scale attack. In fact there’s nothing there that says her intention isn’t to use negotiation or soft power to achieve that. What actually was going on before…well, you non voting or Trump voting clowns I guess. The rest is history.
I’m well aware she’s an out of touch hack as you put it, but this war was started because Netanyahu has full control over the fool Americans elected again. That was why Netanyahu conspired with Hamas to start that attack in the first place…to fool Americans into not voting for Biden and by extension Harris. To fool them into not voting, plus start the holy war he’s wanted to start for decades.
You were all played, and easily too. All it took was some great espionage thanks to Epstein and knowledge that a massive portion of American voters are lazy, stupid, awful people and easily played. That you continue go in with your view that she would have been as bad is childish. Well it’s a fart sniffing exercise as we know, but anyway. Yeah, sure, she’ll support Israel but this wouldn’t have been happening and anyone rational knows that.
You’ll be played again as well.
i don’t understand, almost all of the logic in your reply is our democracy is a farce in two party system and we need to wipe out both parties and israel to have a any hope of future. but your conclusion is no we should keep participating in it with no minimum standards else one will “lazy stupid and awful” ?
and yes the presidential candidate who said not a single negative thing about isreal during her entire campaign and or did anything as vp to stop israel from bombing hospital tents or kids just collecting water would have done nothing different with iran other than crocodile tears once on a while for “unavoidable tragedies of war”
fuck her and may she rot in the same hell beside biden, trump and rest of maga trash.
I love how you call others shitlibs. Yikes, you’re like king of the liberals. Zero understanding of politics, just parroting terms you don’t understand.
Good for you
Lmao I’m not even close.
Yeah righto. Keep losing while they keep voting. Well it might be too late for that now.
I understand the US voters failed the world and its own people by failing to vote or keep out bad candidates. For the rest I couldn’t care less what Americans think of me given what they’ve been responsible for recently.
Liberal shit.
And this is why I have zero interest in “lesser evil” arguments: because even the people makeing them aren’t willing to accept the evil they are actually advocating for, they have to make to less evil versions in their heads to pretend are real.
That’s probably the worst part of this and one of the worst excuses you grubs give.
You have no idea of that to begin because you installed Trump, not Harris. For installing trump, which is your responsibility as a collective, there truly has been a genocide, one of the worst we’ve seen. Harris said he’d do this and he has. You’re guessing she would, based on your twisted belief she’s as bad (or your knowledge that you’re horribly wrong and can’t bust your ego)
Being a fart sniffer though, and the job of who you elected done for your excuses, you’re running the line that a government never elected would be worse.
I’m telling you nothing could be worse than what we gave and it’s bearing out.
Suck that fart in, people died for it. Beyond that I couldn’t care less what your view is, you’re American.
I’m glad ghouls like you are suffering: you deserve it, the world is a better place for it, and I’m happy I apparently had the power to make for suffer, and I will happily use that power I have to make you suffer in the future.
See? You’re a genocide denying fascist ghoul. Anyone who thinks that there was no Genocide in Gaza in 2023 deserves the same thing as their Nazi forefathers. To suffer and be destroyed.