Unverified social media posts claiming Trump visited Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Saturday triggered fresh online speculation about the US president's health.
I pray he doesn’t. I pray he suffers a debilitating stroke, that he wastes away in a chair, refusing to step down or stop taking press conferences. I pray he suffers tremors, and delirium, slurred and broken speech, visibly decaying.
I want his followers to see him as the pathetic husk that he is. I want him to live decades in that chair, I want him to have endless trials in that chair. Death is the easy way out.
“No John, you’re wrong. Dying is worse. Because, well, it is. Isn’t it?”
This reminded me of my favourite scene in Luther. I think dying is worse too. Once he’s dead, it’s over. We get so caught up in wanting to see justice, but is there no greater justice than death? The desire to see him suffer is coming from a place of anger, hate, and malice. Not justice. It’s gaudy. It also gives him the opportunity to live. Why would you give him that gift? Death is final.
I used to hear about Charlie Kirk all the time, from local conservatives, but not so much anymore. I don’t think there’s any way to look at it, other than death being the ultimate punishment. He didn’t get to be a big martyr icon, he was in the news and left behind. Dying presents a golden opportunity that should not be taken for granted, no more speaking.
Finally, I just want to say this, one who wishes to see suffering and pain, is one who wishes to create martyrdom. And I don’t want that.
Charlie Kirk is absolutely still talked about by the right, and it absolutely has undertones of martyrdom.
It’s not about justice, it’s about breaking the spell. It’s about destroying the ridiculous, yet widespread, picture of him as a charismatic strongman. If he just dies, his devotees can hold onto that image, and carry the enthusiasm to the next one. If he withers away pathetically over years, the magic of the movement leaks away, and the cult may awkwardly wither with him.
But more importantly, the people behind him pulling the strings will be able to get away with much worse if obedient JD fills his seat. The saving grace of Trump’s incompetence is his tendency to screw up the plan given by his puppeteers. His buffoonery is currently the most effective factor in slowing Project 2025.
Some, such as his grifter wife, are pushing that narrative hard, but mainly he’s just not being discussed as much. For many others on the right, his znti-zionism runs against their desired narrative (even if it was coming from antisemitism rather than from basic human decency).
This is a needless argument as we’re arguing hypotheticals. It can be boiled down to, you would rather Trump live and risk whatever the consequences of that. I would rather not see that. Ça va. Cheers! Blessing unto you and your family.
I think the consequences of Trump dying are worse than the consequences of him living. As I said, the next in line would likely make fewer mistakes in implementing terrible policy. His administration has control for the next 2+ years either way, he does more damage to their platform through his incompetence than his replacement would.
Die, you horrible fucker.
I pray he doesn’t. I pray he suffers a debilitating stroke, that he wastes away in a chair, refusing to step down or stop taking press conferences. I pray he suffers tremors, and delirium, slurred and broken speech, visibly decaying.
I want his followers to see him as the pathetic husk that he is. I want him to live decades in that chair, I want him to have endless trials in that chair. Death is the easy way out.
“No John, you’re wrong. Dying is worse. Because, well, it is. Isn’t it?”
This reminded me of my favourite scene in Luther. I think dying is worse too. Once he’s dead, it’s over. We get so caught up in wanting to see justice, but is there no greater justice than death? The desire to see him suffer is coming from a place of anger, hate, and malice. Not justice. It’s gaudy. It also gives him the opportunity to live. Why would you give him that gift? Death is final.
I used to hear about Charlie Kirk all the time, from local conservatives, but not so much anymore. I don’t think there’s any way to look at it, other than death being the ultimate punishment. He didn’t get to be a big martyr icon, he was in the news and left behind. Dying presents a golden opportunity that should not be taken for granted, no more speaking.
Finally, I just want to say this, one who wishes to see suffering and pain, is one who wishes to create martyrdom. And I don’t want that.
Charlie Kirk is absolutely still talked about by the right, and it absolutely has undertones of martyrdom.
It’s not about justice, it’s about breaking the spell. It’s about destroying the ridiculous, yet widespread, picture of him as a charismatic strongman. If he just dies, his devotees can hold onto that image, and carry the enthusiasm to the next one. If he withers away pathetically over years, the magic of the movement leaks away, and the cult may awkwardly wither with him.
But more importantly, the people behind him pulling the strings will be able to get away with much worse if obedient JD fills his seat. The saving grace of Trump’s incompetence is his tendency to screw up the plan given by his puppeteers. His buffoonery is currently the most effective factor in slowing Project 2025.
Some, such as his grifter wife, are pushing that narrative hard, but mainly he’s just not being discussed as much. For many others on the right, his znti-zionism runs against their desired narrative (even if it was coming from antisemitism rather than from basic human decency).
This is a needless argument as we’re arguing hypotheticals. It can be boiled down to, you would rather Trump live and risk whatever the consequences of that. I would rather not see that. Ça va. Cheers! Blessing unto you and your family.
I think the consequences of Trump dying are worse than the consequences of him living. As I said, the next in line would likely make fewer mistakes in implementing terrible policy. His administration has control for the next 2+ years either way, he does more damage to their platform through his incompetence than his replacement would.
1,000 times this. Rot in hell.