Look, if this is a religious/spiritual belief system around AI for you as it is for many people I can’t convince you AI is bullshit, but there is simply no evidence AI is going to take over, that tech companies aren’t completely bullshitting, that AI is profitable or that people actually want it for work… MOST IMPORTANTLY only a SMALL FRACTION of the datacenters needed to build these supposedly unstoppable AIs are actually breaking ground and being built.
The thing that limits AI is that we physically cannot build enough datacenters to mitigate its stupidity and hallucination enough to compete with humans on things that actually matter.
Yes you could train an AI on videos of successful human piloted interceptions, but you still have to make that dataset, you still have to update it every time battlefield tactics change, and you still have to figure out how to filter out all the nonsense the AI introduces in the training.
In other words, AI is only unstoppable if it is inputted with an impossible amount of energy, this is used as a trick to handwave away the serious problematic issues at the heart of current AI/LLM based design.
A human by contrast is powered by a PB&J sandwhich…
You are the one acting foolish by assuming that because you can imagine something becoming existentially dangerous when it has shown zero evidence of doing so… that we should prioritize focusing on it when we have things like Climate Change that are actually existential threats.
Yes, anything could become an existential threat, I will however focus on the realistic most likely existential threats because otherwise I will spend my whole life worried that sky is falling while propping up the value of snake oil salesman tech companies.
I would suggest ingesting less scifi slop about AI and taking an interest in actual existential issues threatening us.
Like were you born in 2022? You’re so angry about this. Exactly what I’m afraid of. That a lot of people who aren’t hopping on board with AI will just sit on the internet and gloat about their limited perspective until it’s too late for us to do anything collective that doesn’t involve violence.
Again, stop trying to fear monger about a perceived existential threat while providing no evidence when there are ACTUALY existential threats like Climate Change we are facing.
Are you not putting effort into your conversation or investing yourself in defending your points just because you don’t think this post will be popular?
Thank you. Exactly. All those assets will just change hands. Probably not even as when the companies are liquidated they’ll probably be bought up by the shareholders that were pushing for this in the first place.
If the USA doesn’t have an EPA or other agencies stepping in than we may see real ecological damage unless Americans physically prevent their construction.
I think electricity bills quadrupling and quintupling in cost will step in and put a pinch to much of this horseshit. Already states are stepping up to limit datacenters. Maine just put a ban on them in the state. Infrastructure matters.
But like obviously the video you watched to determine the human pilot was better will be used to train that AI.
This is what scares me the most. How many of the people who are against AI appear to have decided it will never supersede human capabilities.
I feel like a lot of people are expecting the stock market bubble bursting will solve this? IMO that’s just going to open pandoras box.
Look, if this is a religious/spiritual belief system around AI for you as it is for many people I can’t convince you AI is bullshit, but there is simply no evidence AI is going to take over, that tech companies aren’t completely bullshitting, that AI is profitable or that people actually want it for work… MOST IMPORTANTLY only a SMALL FRACTION of the datacenters needed to build these supposedly unstoppable AIs are actually breaking ground and being built.
The thing that limits AI is that we physically cannot build enough datacenters to mitigate its stupidity and hallucination enough to compete with humans on things that actually matter.
Yes you could train an AI on videos of successful human piloted interceptions, but you still have to make that dataset, you still have to update it every time battlefield tactics change, and you still have to figure out how to filter out all the nonsense the AI introduces in the training.
In other words, AI is only unstoppable if it is inputted with an impossible amount of energy, this is used as a trick to handwave away the serious problematic issues at the heart of current AI/LLM based design.
A human by contrast is powered by a PB&J sandwhich…
“It’s not happening fast enough so it’s not happening at all”
Between opening with the ad hominim and closing with a laughable strawman… You’ve got your head in the sand my dude.
AI being bullshit is not mutually exclusive with it being an existential threat to our freedom.
You are the one acting foolish by assuming that because you can imagine something becoming existentially dangerous when it has shown zero evidence of doing so… that we should prioritize focusing on it when we have things like Climate Change that are actually existential threats.
Yes, anything could become an existential threat, I will however focus on the realistic most likely existential threats because otherwise I will spend my whole life worried that sky is falling while propping up the value of snake oil salesman tech companies.
I would suggest ingesting less scifi slop about AI and taking an interest in actual existential issues threatening us.
Where is my strawman argument?
Like were you born in 2022? You’re so angry about this. Exactly what I’m afraid of. That a lot of people who aren’t hopping on board with AI will just sit on the internet and gloat about their limited perspective until it’s too late for us to do anything collective that doesn’t involve violence.
Again, stop trying to fear monger about a perceived existential threat while providing no evidence when there are ACTUALY existential threats like Climate Change we are facing.
Calm down. This is lemmy. Like 8 people are going to see this and all of them can form their own opions. unlike you.
Why do I have to calm down because this is lemmy?
Are you not putting effort into your conversation or investing yourself in defending your points just because you don’t think this post will be popular?
Do you think I give a shit about that?
No I’m not putting effort into a conversation with an impudent ass.
For sure, I think the current crop of ai companies might die when the market crashes, but technology is here to stay
Thank you. Exactly. All those assets will just change hands. Probably not even as when the companies are liquidated they’ll probably be bought up by the shareholders that were pushing for this in the first place.
If the USA doesn’t have an EPA or other agencies stepping in than we may see real ecological damage unless Americans physically prevent their construction.
I think electricity bills quadrupling and quintupling in cost will step in and put a pinch to much of this horseshit. Already states are stepping up to limit datacenters. Maine just put a ban on them in the state. Infrastructure matters.
There is still innovation in the space. There are some models that aren’t as gpu (and maybe power) hungry.
I think we need to be prepared to confront LLM’s and whatever comes after for the long haul.
Today’s iteration sucks for so many reasons, the core of problem I think will be there for a long time.
Hell we may crack fusion (in the next 20 years) and we will still have the fundamental problems we are grappling with.