I work in healthcare, I meet people grieving pretty regularly. My opinions stay at the door - I’ll even go as far as praying with patients, and I don’t have a shred of religion in me… to the contrary, I fucking despise religion; but if that’s what brings them comfort, then fuck it, I’ll play along.

Your case is basically the same gig - if having a mom urn brings you comfort, then you do you. Difference is that you already know my opinion, so we’re bashing heads right out the gate, but I’ll remind you of the thread topic to proclaim an unpopular opinion that we know doesn’t mean shit.

I don’t know what else you wanted us to do instead.

Dude, you don’t need to justify your decisions to me, and you certainly don’t need to change your behavior based on an internet stranger’s ‘hot take’. Where you see comfort in ceremony, I see an industry that relies on predation of people during an extremely vulnerable time. Engaging with that industry makes me feel taken advantage of; but there’s a lot of social pressure to conform which makes it feel even more uncomfortable. Our opinions don’t need to be reconciled.

Eh, there’s a line to be sure. if folks want to have a potluck in remembrance of a loved one, I have have zero issue with that. I guess it’s more the industry surrounding it that offends me - the expensive venue, specialty vehicles, the resources dumped into making a fancy box to keep the corpse in, and then just bury, and ofc the insanely wasteful use of land to give basically housing to corpses. It all feels very exploitive, like you ‘owe’ your dead mom the nice polished marble tombstone. …and I’m here to tell you, your dead mom doesn’t give the tiniest shred of fuck what her tombstone’s made out of. Or that she has a tombstone at all.

I don’t. I literally acknowledged that in my previous post. I’m in the same boat as everyone else who isn’t willing to risk their life or freedom over this.

There’s a reason I say “we” in these types of criticisms.

Functionally yes, but those partaking generally see it as a gesture for the deceased, not therapy in disguise.

I’m all for therapy, it’s just the way we go about it in this context is stupid and wasteful.

…this is really disrespectful to pastrami and corned beef.

From the voting angle? Yeah I’m as tired of picking the 2nd worst candidate as anyone else. When I push for voter turnout and encourage folks to vote for the least evil option that has a realistic shot of winning, it isn’t with any expectation that things will improve as a result of that person’s policies, it’s to pull the parachute on our freefall into human rights violations, locally and abroad.

From the guillotine angle? ‘They’ don’t have us in jack, we just don’t have a spine. We could turn this shit around practically overnight, but no one (self included - I’ll own my share of the blame here) wants to get their hands dirty.

“Fuck lawns” energy, but for graveyards. (no not like that, stoppit!)

Or postmortem services in general. If you want to give something to someone, do it when they’re still around to appreciate it. Once they’re dead, they won’t give a fuck about the fancy funeral or coffin or w/e you bought for em.

dole

heh.

In all fairness, there’s a huge distinction between individual soldiers and the military as a whole. Like, I’m a fan of of oldschool power metal, but that doesn’t make any connection between power metal and the hospital I work for, nor does it make the bands I listen to affiliated with healthcare.

Soldiers are a mixed bag, spanning the entire spectrum of politics, morals, etc. At the end of the day, the message in Disturbed’s music was usually a positive one, that tends to do things like criticize things like the military being used as a force of evil.

…which I really thought was sincere, cuz I’m a gullible idiot.

…or else!

*menacing gesture*

Surely that’ll do.

Not sure what argument you think you’re making. If we had a 100% turnout and still had enough people waste their vote on some protest candidate or even directly for Trump as some kind of accelerationist nonsense, the situation would still be what I’m griping about, which is people failing to vote strategically (and failing to behead malevolent people in positions of power). Nonvoters are only part of the issue.

…and not that it matters, but I don’t buy that article’s pitch for a second. High voter turnout trends blue. A study can hypothesize to the contrary, but a single study doesn’t prove shit (in any context - peer review ftw).

Well that channel’s a goldmine.

Yeah this is way beyond voting. Even in the context of just voting, it’s often necessary to vote for a lesser evil. Case in point, all the “Kamala didn’t earn my vote!” dipshits who handed Trump the presidency on a silver platter.

You gotta make strategic choices with voting, and sometimes that kinda sucks.

So do that. But also break out the guillotines when the people you voted for start behaving maliciously. That’s what we’re failing, and that’s why things have gone so far shit.

…I was kinda heartbroken. Every fucking time I convince myself that some celeb is a genuinely good person, they come out with some ghoulish bullshit like this this.

It’s fucking DISTURBED! Like, did you guys even hear your own fucking lyrics??

I hate how valid the whole “never meet your heroes” spiel is.

Disturbed, 2009 cover of Land of Confusion, by Genesis 1986:

I must’ve dreamed a thousand dreams Been haunted by a million screams But I can hear the marching feet They’re moving into the street

Now, did you read the news today? They say the danger’s gone away But I can see the fire’s still alight Burning into the night

There’s too many men, too many people Making too many problems And there’s not much love to go 'round Can’t you see this is a land of confusion?

This is the world we live in And these are the hands we’re given Use them and let’s start trying To make it a place worth living in

Oh, Superman, where are you now? When everything’s gone wrong somehow? The men of steel, these men of power Are losing control by the hour

This is the time, this is the place So we look for the future But there’s not much love to go 'round Tell me why this is a land of confusion

This is the world we live in And these are the hands we’re given Use them and let’s start trying To make it a place worth living in

I remember long ago When the sun was shining And all the stars were bright All through the night In the wake of this madness, as I held you tight So long ago

I won’t be coming home tonight My generation will put it right We’re not just making promises That we know we’ll never keep

There’s too many men, too many people Making too many problems And there’s not much love to go 'round Can’t you see this is a land of confusion?

Now, this is the world we live in And these are the hands we’re given Use them and let’s start trying To make it a place worth fighting for

This is the world we live in And these are the names we’re given Stand up and let’s start showing Just where our lives are going to

Also Disturbed:

https://metaladdicts.com/disturbeds-david-draiman-signs-israeli-bombs/

It’s just inaction and hypocrisy all the way down.

…so what is Trump waiting for? He needs to hurry up and follow his role-model’s example and paint that ceiling.

Movie? Could use more of this in the news.

Is it more violent to burn it down, or to let it burn all of us down?

…unsure which post would be a violation of community guidelines.

immediately impeachable and criminal

Add it to the pile.

You weren’t expecting enforcement, were you?

What a great day to be a virus! 🎉