• TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 days ago

    Hey Sony, I am never gonna buy a PlayStation, but I will buy anything almost anything from Kojima Productions at full price for PC.

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      9 hours ago

      Damn how much Death Stranding sucks. Both games a waste of time. The second one less, but still flawed in many ways.

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      3 days ago

      Regardless this is a dumb decision. I guarantee they were raking in free cash from the ports. If this is a move to try to move more hardware, they’re sorely mistaken if they think I’m just gonna go buy a PS5 or even the upcoming PS6 over this

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        1 day ago

        They just aren’t making money from them like they used to. You can’t expect to port a game to PC 2 years after it releases, spend $0 on advertising and then say “mhmm, this pc thing isn’t working out, no one’s buying our games”. Check the Steam charts for their last few ports, they’re resembling a flat line. If they dropped the game on PC day 1 they would’ve made more money on PC sales, which is a terrible precedent for them, as it means that the age of the console has come to an end. Luckily, some of Sony’s biggest partners already realized that:

        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2023-09-25/capcom-targets-smartphone-gamers

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        3 days ago

        It wasn’t free cash, since the ports cost money to make … but they are throwing money away, especially with all the money down the hole on Ghost of Yōtei.

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        2 days ago

        I don’t think their intent is to have you go buy a PS5, I think their bigger intent is preventing it on Xbox hardware.

        I think Xbox’s claims that all PC games will be available on the new system is a big reason for them to not allow it on PC, they have been a firm “We don’t want this on Xbox”, and they can’t uphold that with Project Helix’s claims that it runs PC games.

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          2 days ago

          I imagine that while that maybe was involved in their reasoning, that they are more worried about steam deck. Xbox is circling the drain. Steam deck is gaining steam. Ahem.

          Their model is based on subscription to use online features. That becomes a harder sell when the hardware is also much more expensive. So, they will want to make gamers miss out by not having a PlayStation, similar to past console battles. However, in the past people picked a side and stuck with it. A gen or two ago, many gamers had more than one console or a console and a gaming able PC. I think that’s going to shrink with the cost rises.

          They want people to choose PlayStation as their first choice. I don’t think people will, so it might mean they lose on both, so it’s a gamble. However, they can port to PC at any time, so I expect that’s what they will do.

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      3 days ago

      Well, I definitely wasn’t going to buy a PlayStation 5 when it was $500, but now that they’ve stopped putting out versions of their games on PC that run better than PlayStation versions, and now that the console costs $650, I’m definitely enticed to buy one!

  • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    3 days ago

    So, not defending them because it’s still a stupid choice, but their reasons were not because PC bad, but because Xbox announced their “Play PC games on the next Xbox”. Meaning Microsoft’s next console could play PS games now (if they bought the PC version). Sony doesn’t want their rival console to play their games, so they revoked it.

    I still think it’s stupid, exclusives are stupid, but that’s the actual reason before many more people claim that sony hates PC players. (I mean they do, but not for the reason you think)

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      3 days ago

      Except do we actually know how the Xbox/PC thing will work? Are we sure it will be able to run all games and isn’t just their plan to push game streaming?

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        3 days ago

        Nothing concrete, but their stated goal is to play any pc game on it, similar to what steam did with the deck. That was enough to scare off sony

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          2 days ago

          Yeah, if anything, this is Valve’s fault. They upturned the playing field and proved a new path.

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      2 days ago

      yeah!!! i’m so mad that more people are able to play these cool games! they should have never tried to have a bigger audience smh

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        2 days ago

        They are a console manufacturer, a platform holder. It makes absolutely no sense to put your proprietary IPS on other platforms when you’re trying to sell your platform and system. It’s the entire reason that Nintendo still exists. Look at Microsoft, how many more nails in that coffin can possibly be put in it.

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          23 hours ago

          Not if there is no impact on your console platform if a given market segment would never spend money on your platform in the first place.

          I bought Death Stranding and Heavy Rain on PC, I would not buy a Playstation just to play those 2 games.

          It’s their call of course, I think the era of consoles as a siloed platform is slowly coming to an end.

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            9 hours ago

            I don’t think so at all. PlayStation and Nintendo want to sell hardware where as Microsoft does not care anymore because they can’t.

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              2 hours ago

              They definitely want to sell hardware and have closed platforms built around their hardware.

              But that’s not as easy to do as it was even 10 years ago.

              The nature of gaming is changing and it’s more difficult to differentiate based on hardware alone. You have indie games which tend to be multi-platform, you have Roblox, Fortnite, PC specific games have also become more common.

              And it’s difficult to manage hardware costs and show meaningful graphical quality improvements. Hardware subsidies in the first few years of a new console are basically not viable anymore.

              Even Nintendo’s handheld dominance is being slowly challenged (their games are extremely expensive on a relative basis).

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    2 days ago

    If I can’t buy the games on PC I’m not gonna buy them at all. The PS5’s controller is cool I guess, except the only game using it correctly are Astro’s Playroom and Astro Bot… (which gives me flashbacks to Nintendo Land all over again)

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      16 hours ago

      using it correctly

      I’m not entirely sure what you mean here, as I think a lot of games use it well. I do wish more games would though. The adaptive triggers are so fucking cool.

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      2 days ago

      The controller is also D-Input and frankly - ruck that.

      Xinput has existed as the standard since 2005.

      I used to like their controllers but fuck that, I ain’t buying a set that only works on 1 console.

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        13 hours ago

        It works pretty well on Linux for me, but I’m really waiting for the Steam Controller because that trackpad is just kinda trash compared to what Valve makes x) also I need more back buttons, the DualSense Edge has only two and the placement isn’t great

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        13 hours ago

        6-people on the Animal Crossing game is peak gaming (two on the gamepad) 😯

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    2 days ago

    The only PlayStation Studios games I’ve been interested in are the Spider-Man games.

    I have coworkers discussing exclusives in tones where they’re clearly trying to make me jealous, and I’m just fine with my games