• als@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    12 days ago

    Good. “Gender critical” is just a term sexist and transphobic people used when they’re too ashamed of themselves to be honest about their opinons.

  • OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml
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    12 days ago

    "Because of my views - and they’re lawfully held views - they are missing out on this opportunity, and that’s the part that is absolutely galling.

    And it’s also a lawfully held view for scope to think she’s so terrible that they want nothing to do with her.

    Fucking coward. If your only justification for your views is that it’s “lawfully held” you need to admit to yourself that you’re a bad person.

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      12 days ago

      Reminds me of this:

      As you say, just because it’s (debatably) legal does not mean it is moral.

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      12 days ago

      “lawfully held” - when your go-to argument is “it’s not technically illegal” then you might want to consider your stance.

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    11 days ago

    It’s meant to hurt you. Women are routinely punished for expressing these kind of views. It’s meant to silence you. It’s meant to make you think twice about speaking up.

    If she thinks that about being excluded from involvement in a marathon, how about the voices of transgender people excluded from gender-conforming spaces on a daily basis?

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    12 days ago

    Sorry, but punishing an entire choir because of the wrongthink of one person is stupid. Not only that, but all the reporting of this is just going to give her a massive amount of publicity, I’d certainly never heard of this lady before.

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      That’s nice.

      Anyways good for scope, they have a principle, that bigots should be shunned, and they’re sticking with it.

      I suppose if the choir share the principle, that bigots should be shunned, then this becomes a self solving problem. If they don’t, then scope have still affected a positive outcome.

      What is it you would prefer the choir do with the bigot? No-one is stopping the choir from affecting any change you could reasonably suggest. Again, a self solving problem and a positive outcome.

      Let’s have some critical support for positive actions, shunning bigots is merely one. Heaven forbid a bigot have their life mildly inconvenienced for their hatred of trans-people. Heaven forbid people supporting that bigot have their lives mildly inconvenienced for their support of that hatred.

      Calling bigotry “wrong think” is just silly, it shows you’ve never read the book. Bigotry was never “wrong think”, specifically bigotry towards LGBT+ was not wrong think. Please read 1984, in it you will read that sex is “procreation only” and gender roles are rigidly enforced, there’s no room for LGBT+ under Big Brother’s boot.

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        It’s a CIC, so they can’t just kick out the founder. Founding a new organisation takes a lot of work.

        Even if they could kick her out, it’s legally a protected belief, so it would potentially be illegal discrimination to kick her out for it.

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          So? Just taking one idea: founding a new organisation takes a lot of work.

          That’s not an impossible idea is it? “We wanted to not have a bigot as a lead, but it was work” isn’t going to win any sympathies, nor should it. In the mean time, good job scope, perhaps they’ll provide incentive to get that work done

          There you go, you have at least 1 workable solution the choir could do to not be mildly inconvenienced the next time. There are, of course, other things they could do, readers thought of a couple I’m sure. The point was to show that you, a dissenter to the idea that bigots should be shunned, knew there were things they could reasonably do.

          Of course transphobia is a protected belief, it’s TERF island. Did you read 1984 yet, I reccomend it, in the book “wrong think” doesn’t describe “legally protected beliefs”.

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          The work required to leave and start a new one is less work than having her removed. It is easier to work without the cancer than trying to treat it as something helpful or functional. She is responsible for devastating the people around her and harming their lives. She needs to fix herself or find herself alone with her legally held views.

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      That’s the equivalent of continuing to purchase Harry Potter products while condemning J. K. Rowling for her transphobic beliefs. Supporting a transphobe in any capacity only serves to prop them up on an even higher pedestal from which they can disseminate their hateful beliefs; better to find alternatives from those in society capable of common decency.