according to reddit they had 918 million Monthly Active Users (MAU) in 2022, then they stopped reporting it for I assume stock reasons 🤷♀️. Anyways, I’m not trying to be super specific so I’ll go with 1 billion since it’s 4 years out of date anyways.
The widely shared number for Lemmy MAU is ~40,000. I’ve heard this shared for many years and I wasn’t sure if it was accurate anymore. The actual numbers are easy to find so I added all of the totals from piefed statistics page for Lemmy + Piefed + Mbin.
It turned out to be 40,272. guess the number was correct after all!
https://piefed.social/statistics?software=Lemmy
so that’s 1,000,000,000 vs 40,000
that’s 0.004%! I lowkey forgot how big reddit is.
EDIT: for all the people saying my data is inaccurate, I know. There’s many factors that offset the accurate statistics of what a ‘user’ is. I’ll list a few, including some nobody else has considered
- reddits estimate includes bot accounts
- lemmys estimate includes bot accounts
- reddit estimate includes alt accounts
- lemmys estimate includes alt accounts (arguably moreso than reddit due to ppl having accounts on multiple instances)
- reddits estimate includes signed out accounts, lemmys does not
- VPN / dynamic routers can largely bias reddits number
- one last small factor, reddits data is 4 years out of date
I’m literally a college dropout because I’m bad at math, I just looked up numbers and divided them.
instead of constantly winging about data inaccuracies how about yall do something about it. comment a more accurate estimation and I’ll edit my posts title and give credit. stupid smelly nerds
Nah, no way there’s a billion active Reddit users. Not in 2022 and even less so in 2026. Only way that were possible is if it is randomly hugely popular in India, which I highly doubt. I don’t think it’s even available in China. My best guess would be far less. Active users it’s probably only a couple of million (excluding 2and accounts and bots), maybe 5 million, maybe 20. Who knows?
But every Lemmy users is worth far more than 25,000 Redditors.
As someone that is 100% non-biased, yes I completely agree with this self aggrandizing position.
furthermore, I choose to consider this empirical evidence that verifies my own
biasescommon sense beliefsI can see in two more turns this is going to turn out really bad.
Are they all people though? Doesn’t reddit have a bot and paid trolling problem?
When you step into a non-bot place like Lemmy, it becomes apparent just how flooded Reddit is.
What on earth would make you think lemmy, a federated system, doesn’t have bots?
15 year old reddit account and recently had my first ever ban (3 days) for making an unfavourable comment about China, lol. Thanks to the ban I revisited Lemmy and found how nice it is to actually interact with real people. Now I don’t really go on reddit unless to do some research.
Even if the bot problem is massively blown out of proportion, I would argue most people that are addicted to algorithms are almost no different from a bot. I really don’t understand why we are only kicking kids off the internet because the way ai handles content feeds is literally killing them, when its obvious we should stop it completely because it harms everyone. And we should of been holding these people accountable, and I mean real prison time.
All this ad driven nonsense has done so much damage. The most obvious facebook has lost 3 lawsuits for what can be boiled down to mind control advertisement science. Cambridge analytics, the teen Instagram, faking likes and emotional manipulation of your news feed to boost advertisement revenue. They literally just showed you bad news 24/7 instead of pictures of your uncles fish he just caught, then advertisement companies who advertise for politicians, gambling, porn whatever use that data to send you relevant ads to whatever kind of weird doom loop Facebook has you stuck in. Not only that but Facebook has cause 2-3 revolutions and a genocide weirdly where US has military interest. Yet some how its ai moderation is so out of wack they are facing another potential law suit because ai is retroactively banning anyone and everyone ai hallucinations and demanding face scans before the ai instantly rejects and bans them. So I have a hard time believing if normal people can’t just exist on Facebook without a random ban, that genocide could even happen.
Facebook supports scammers over users too because that’s who gives them money, you are worse than a resource to them and if they could they would prefer if they can skip your consent all together to harvest your data. They let scam advertisements stay up, weird pedo ads and will ban you for mentioning it because you said a bad word, while the ads remain up. You don’t even need a Facebook account they have many APIs that tie in to much of the modern web for connected features and whatnot. They also really want to push smart glasses on people so even those who don’t have a Facebook account get a face scan, and because that person probably has you added in their contacts that they share with Facebook they slowly build profiles on you. Facebook has built and “canceled” face scanning projects 4 different times, there’s no way they’re not doing it even if they say they aren’t.
I don’t want to ‘other’ people in seeming less than human because they gobble this stuff up to the ponlint of becoming bots. Ultimately they are victims to something that they can’t even really comprehend simply because they maybe get 3-4 hours to themselves each day, and that’s gonna be filled with fun shit.
Hey can anyone tell me where to find a dick up myyass?
What do you think of my cool AI food picture!?
Where’s the best to go eat?
TIL: that reddit is full of bullshit!
Did you know… I didn’t care!
What’s the best whatevermycallit?
BREAKING! myyass with balls!
YSK! it’s another hidden AD!
This just in! myyass!
Hey look at me smile! I got an OnlyPhans!
The list goes on…
AI mod: your post has been removed!
Yeah I preferred cat pictures and people actually trying to communicate.
But wait! There’s more! Now link your phone or facebook or whatever.
No thank you.
…who were at One Time on reddit. How many like me who just stopped going there when it went full scale evil?
Yep. I am only new here but Reddit use had plummeted over the last few years. Here in Australia it looks like you now need an account to even view a sub-reddit. I don’t think I will ever go back there.
I don’t know about full skill evil, but I stopped using Reddit entirely when they started charging obscene amounts of money for their API. I had an app called Baconreader that I really liked, and its developer just essentially stopped making money because they couldn’t afford the API fees.
I’m new fairly new to lemmy. Reddit still seems useful, particularly because as the OP says due to number of users. You might get faster and broader discussions and ideas to whatever you’re looking for. Not sure why/when it started feeling negative on reddit, maybe that’s one of the side effect of large number of users and may apply to Lemmy too once userbase grows similarly
for specific niche topics, the frontpage is just slop, even AI slop.
I just discovered Lemmy recently, and it feels like discovering reddit for the first time back in 08-09. After the more recent updates, and the flood of bots, reddit just feels insufferable now.
what is with the sudden Dinner diaries, and aita post, we know most are faked, or written up drama(sometimes the poster is a writer and would write fake stories to gauge responses.
Ehh, aside from all the bots, I left reddit a few years ago along with my 3 accounts and everyone I know IRL who was on reddit has stopped using it, mostly because the quality has gone downhill.
I know a guy who doesn’t stand for anything, wouldn’t care if spez drove to his house and threw literal shit at his kids, would keep using reddit if he kept enjoying it, still eventually got rid of reddit because he finally realized he wasn’t talking to people and half the posts were nonsense.
ever since the forced login, and i had to use a reskin method i used it less, after a year of ban, i made an account for niche topics, and found myself using it more than id like.
Reddit is an extemely toxic and restrictive environment ruled by AI, bots, and loser mods who will ban you for absolutely no reason. It is only a shadow of what it used to be after the great digg migration. It won’t be getting my clicks anymore.
reddit filters can ban you with no warning sometimes. plus they are giving mods AI tools as well.
and loser mods who will ban you for absolutely no reason
Look how many bots they need to mimic a fraction of our power!!!
and they can all kiss my ass with their pointless posts.
we need more users. there’s barely any content on here for any niche topic, and i miss discussing about random very specific topics. for example: spaceflight, astrophysics, etc.
we need more users. i’m slowly witnessing what feels like the death of feddit.org, because there’s just not enough users to post interesting content. (NO, i cannot “just post more content myself then”. i cannot keep a platform alive myself, and in fact i’m not even trying as long as i don’t feel that there’s enough people who would even be interested in seeing that content.)
we need more users. not just for the niche content, but also because i think that it would be good if people (the public, not just a few nerds) knew about the possibility of providing information to an open platform, instead of a closed for-profit one.
size is not what made reddit bad. commercialization is. they restricted access and pushed ragebait (for engagement baiting) and adware, and that’s what made it bad. lemmy will not suffer the same fate just because it grows bigger. as long as it stays non-commercial, it will get better as it gets bigger. thus we should strive to have more users on the platform.
the problem is people were to quick to jump to another platform, and dint stick to one to grow it. when the last instance shut down, they went to piefed, other platforms with even less people on it, it just dilutes the population too much.
If you’re not into tech and politics there’s barely any content for you on lemmy. The average person doesn’t know it exists let alone know how to use it. And there’s also barely any women on Lemmy.
There was a subreddit for everything. “The front page of the internet.” You could find subs for birds shitting on things, with buff guy arms photoshopped onto them.
That was what attracted me to Reddit. I first subscribed to things like AskReddit, NoStupidQuestions, TodayILearned, AmITheAsshole, MildlyInteresting, WhatIsThisThing, … stuff like that.
Latter I dove more deeply into niches like AskPhilosophy, LearnPython, JavaScript, LinuxQuestions, HomeAutomation, Consciousness, PostgreSQL, …
Then I started also using it for news…
It had everything. Every little division had its own subculture. If I didn’t like one, I could find alternatives — plenty of them.
It also became somewhat of an archive too, given that you’d use Google to search Reddit. You could find anything on there.
I mostly learned of Lemmy because I began to despite Reddit. That’s not really an effective marketing strategy. Lemmy needs something more than “Fediverse” when at least half of the population isn’t willing to understand what that is or outright accept it as a necessary solution. Lemmy needs to compete, giving more people a reason to participate. If it can’t incentivize more people to participate, then more people aren’t going to participate.
I don’t know what that looks like for Lemmy. It’s not whatever Lemmy does right now, though.
Ohshit is feddit dying? What did I miss? I love that place!
The only way you’ll get that content is by posting it. Ofc everyone wants infinite users so they can sit back and get the content they want to lurk on with no effort. I do too lol
yeah i get that but there’s communities where i’m the sole poster for months.
So if I get one upvote here on lemmy, imma just go ahead and inflate my ego as if 25000 people upvoted it!
My psychologist is gonna be so proud of me! :D
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Well here’s 25000 updoots for ya, friend!
24000 on Reddit are BOTS………
That’s it?!
how many of those 25000 are actually people and not bots?
I feel special 💕
