Hey fellow Europeans,
I’ve been toying around with the idea of a new European military alliance that explicitly does not include the US. Basically a replacenent for NATO. If such an organisation were to exist, how would you define its framework/scope?
Specifically:
- What would you call it? I like EDO (European Defense Organisation)
- Membership: EU-only vs. broader Europe (e.g. UK, Norway, Balkans… Canada?)?
- Command structure: centralized? federated?
- Thoughts on a possible nuclear doctrine?
- Funding through proportional contributions? Or rather a unified defense budget?
- Legal basis: treaty-based like NATO or integrated into EU structures? Both may have their advantages.
I am interested in hearing your thoughts and ideas on the topic.


Why limit ourselves? It’s better to have many friends than just a few. This Defense Initiative should be Global.
Is that a command and conquer reference?
I think the Saudis own that now.
I like the idea! But I’d argue that such an alliance needs cohesion in order to work. And sadly, I can’t imagine a German soldier readily risk his life to defend the country of… say… Myanmar. Or Bhutan. Just as an example. Humans sometimes need to identify with a group in order to feel empathy for said group. Thats why I like the Idea of a centralized European Arme. It’s a possible source for cohesion.