- cross-posted to:
- flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
- cross-posted to:
- flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
You must log in or # to comment.
The international community will never trust the US again. Every shred of soft power and trust in the US is gone, and nobody will make an agreement that isn’t purely short-term transactional for decades to come.
IF Trump leaves office, some of these things might happen and some of them even sucessfully.
Remember when we repealed the patriot act and got rid of the TSA? Or put the guardrails back in place after that big crash? No, the other crash, the one that happened after the guardrails were removed the second time.
To add: Remember when grocery prices went back down?
When Trump leaves office, the 40% of Americans who voted for him will still be there.
Every single country on the planet has the same shitty people that vote shitty. There are lots of really stupid people. At the end of the day, people can be seriously disappointing. This is the same all over the planet. American voters aren’t any worse than the voters of any other country. So then, if 40% of the voters in any country would be willing to put someone like Trump into power over a more sane candidate, what does that mean?
Well, first off, it means no place is truly safe from the most batshit crazy people getting into power. Italy has Giorgia Meloni, France almost had Marine Le Pen, the AfD is getting a lot of support in Germany, etc.
But it also means that the system itself has problems. That’s what ultimately allowed Trump to get into power. We have a government by the billionaires, for the billionaires. The wealth of billionaires in itself has grown out of control. It is impossible to successfully run for a major office without being insanely wealthy. Bribery is a central part of US politics. Corporations can make unlimited donations to political candidates. All of the safeguards against crazy have been dismantled. Party leadership silences anyone that tries to make a positive change. The media is filled with propaganda. AI has figured out how to manipulate people on a personal level. The list keeps going on. People will vote for the worst candidates all over the world. But in the US, at this point, the system is broken in a way that has enabled the worst candidate to not only be moderately bad, but some of the worst people on the planet.
Edit: I shouldn’t say 40% of the country - when the system fails to the extent it has in the US, it makes it difficult for people to vote. The number of Trump supporters is nowhere near 40% of the country. But there’s enough people anywhere for it to happen under the right circumstances.
well… the ice facilities will no longer be used…
Trump has already caused decades of harm, some probably permanent. When people warned of irrevocable damage should Trump be elected, this is what they referred to.
A single example: Iran. If they still exist when Trump leaves office or dies, they’re not going to jump back into the Iran Nuclear Deal. If we don’t want them to have nuclear weapons, Trump shouldn’t have withdrew us from the agreement that was working in 2018 just because it was an Obama success! Shit like that is why we’re fucked…
i would even go further… if you are not one of the biggest 10 countries you NEED nuclear weapons now
Trump will be “leaving office” when JD Vance exercises the 25th amendment in January. Very little is going to change when Trump leaves office. We’ll get significantly fewer incomprehensible rants, but that’s the only major change we’re going to get.
Why Jan?
New Congress is seated on January 3rd. Vance won’t have Congressional support before then. He needs a majority in the cabinet and 2/3 majority in the legislature to complete a 25th amendment coup.
If the VP completes less than half of the president’s term, they remain eligible for two full terms of their own. January 20th 2027 marks the half way point of Trump’s term.
This viewpoint is flawed and dangerously naive.
The damage is not as superficial as a name or a building. The USA allowed this to happen. The checks and balances that were supposed to be built into the system have failed. The United States of America, it’s government, and it’s whole social structure is no longer reliable. It does not end with the removal from power or even the death of Trump.
In 2016 the world got to know Donald Trump. In 2024 the world got to know the American people.
In 2024 the first world got to know the American people.
FTFY. Places that had to live with the consequences of US bombs and CIA regime change already knew what the American people were like.
The thing that the whole word has learned is that there’s NO limit to what the American people will shrug off and do nothing about, whether they like it or not. None whatsoever.
You’re right that others have previously found themselves on the wrong side of that, apparently nonexistent, limit, and already learned that their lives didn’t matter a bit to any Americans. But the attack on Venezuela and economic war against Cuba – formally unsanctiones acts of wanton destruction, carried out for the lulz in the name of all Americans – were very much not believed to be in the cards, even by those countries.
Earlier this year, Denmark – fucking DENMARK – a vassal state of ~5 million people – prepared for a fight with the US to the point of sending blood bags to Greenland. But the very idea of that doesn’t even give Americans pause, Trump voters or not.
At least people in Nazi Germany feigned ignorance, Americans straight up don’t give a fuck.
What makes this poster think that the same dumbass people who fell behind this fatass pedophile won’t follow the next fat, piece of shit, douchbag the Republicans throw up?
To be fair, Vance isn’t fat.
They really don’t want to admit that it’s Jover.
