The results indicated that the women found men with light stubble most attractive; these men were preferred as both short- and long-term partners. However, the women perceived male faces with full beards as the most masculine, aggressive, and socially mature; the women also thought these men looked older. Men’s faces with light beards were considered the most dominant.
Research by Dixson and Brooks (2013) used similar procedures and recorded judgments by both men and women on the faces of men with varying degrees of facial hair. As in the first study, women found stubble on men most attractive, (In this study, the stubble was heavier.) Nevertheless, women rated men with full beards as the highest for perceived parenting ability and healthiness. Overall, as facial hair increased, women’s ratings of masculinity increased, too—particularly for women who reported being at the fertile phase of their menstrual cycle. Men had similar judgments of facial hair, except that they found full beards as appealing as heavy stubble. Men also noted a greater perception of masculinity as facial hair increased.
Overall, these ratings suggest that an intermediate level of facial stubble is more attractive for a sex partner, while a fuller beard is perceived as indicative of someone with good fathering ability and more investment in offspring.
Heyyyy turns out when you ask 100 women what they think of facial hair on men, they overwhelmingly prefer it.
Actually the study says they prefer light stubble, which is impossible to have without shaving unless you’re 15. For that matter, how many women do you think would like a man with a beard or pubic hair that had NEVER been shaved? So women expect men to trim and groom their body hair at the very least, which is just as unnatural as shaving your legs.
Unless the hairs are really thick and dark, outside of the average, those aren’t that noticable or at least it requires active focusing to look for those.
Basically randomly walking on the street or just doing basic daily tasks and the difference is unnoticeable.
Unless the hairs are really thick and dark, outside of the average
Average for where? I never knew any girls in middle/high school that felt they could ‘get away’ without shaving their legs for more than a couple of days unless they were blonde. Even before I went on testosterone you could probably tell if I’d shaved from 20 yards.
Location specific average, of course that changes based on location. Not that it’s bad, just that it’s noticable because it stands out from others. Like if everyone were to wear black clothes and one person wears red, they would stand out. But different shades of dark grey or even just darker colors, would be unnoticeable difference.
Even before I went on testosterone you could probably tell if I’d shaved from 20 yards.
But that was the point, unless actually focusing and looking for it. It’s completely unnoticeable from that far away. Unless far away from the average, maybe up to the level of average guy, though even that would require actual focusing on the person and then specifically their legs.
So the other person had a point. It becomes noticable only when fully focusing on the other person and specifically their body at which point it has to be a rather intimate situation.
Why else would you give that much specific attention to other person?
a man won’t know a woman doesn’t shave her legs unless he’s intimate with her anyway.
… are you maybe teensy weensy stoned right now? Baked like a potato? Lit like a Christmas tree? Toasted? Zooted? Zonked? Roasted? Lil bit stoney baloney?
The point that you completely glossed over is that women have preferences, some like facial hair some don’t.
We’re talking about society treating leg hair on women as abnormal. If you want to see if there’s a societal double standard there then you need to ask how society looks at men’s legs, not their faces.
So men have or don’t shave their faces accordingly
If some unknown man can make you do something, you have a problem
Surely you need to be living in a cave to not see the asymmetry there though. On men facial hair is unattractive for half of women and very attractive for other (making up the stats). On women leg hair is perceived as unattractive for all but most people.
A man which has a stubble, when going out, does not generally think “shit I should shave otherwise everyone will look at me with disdain”. While a women going to swimming but realizes that she has not shaved her legs will generally feel ashamed thinking she will be seen as “not taking care of herself”.
It is?
Ask 100 women what they think of facial hair on men.
Heyyyy turns out when you ask 100 women what they think of facial hair on men, they overwhelmingly prefer it.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-attraction-doctor/201607/do-women-prefer-men-with-beards
ZZ Top wasted a lot of money on dressing sharp when it was the beards all along.
But not a lot on sunglasses.
Hahahaha
Actually the study says they prefer light stubble, which is impossible to have without shaving unless you’re 15. For that matter, how many women do you think would like a man with a beard or pubic hair that had NEVER been shaved? So women expect men to trim and groom their body hair at the very least, which is just as unnatural as shaving your legs.
Trimmed, not shaved. Unless you are into women that are into prepubescent boys, you can get away with trimming once a week.
That’s not my experience. Ironically, the only negative response I got about body hair, was when I shaved it.
That’s fucked up.
What’s natural about trimming? Why would the hair be there if it needs to be trimmed?
Interesting, and I’m frankly surprised by it.
Still, there are women who don’t prefer it, which makes the point.
Men and women have preferences, we can choose to accommodate that as we (as individuals) wish.
No one holds a gun to anyone’s head and says “shave or else”.
Fuck, what man is going to know it a woman shaves her legs unless he’s intimate with her anyway?
Do you live in Saudi Arabia or are you legally blind? Shorts exist.
Unless the hairs are really thick and dark, outside of the average, those aren’t that noticable or at least it requires active focusing to look for those.
Basically randomly walking on the street or just doing basic daily tasks and the difference is unnoticeable.
Average for where? I never knew any girls in middle/high school that felt they could ‘get away’ without shaving their legs for more than a couple of days unless they were blonde. Even before I went on testosterone you could probably tell if I’d shaved from 20 yards.
Location specific average, of course that changes based on location. Not that it’s bad, just that it’s noticable because it stands out from others. Like if everyone were to wear black clothes and one person wears red, they would stand out. But different shades of dark grey or even just darker colors, would be unnoticeable difference.
But that was the point, unless actually focusing and looking for it. It’s completely unnoticeable from that far away. Unless far away from the average, maybe up to the level of average guy, though even that would require actual focusing on the person and then specifically their legs.
So the other person had a point. It becomes noticable only when fully focusing on the other person and specifically their body at which point it has to be a rather intimate situation.
Why else would you give that much specific attention to other person?
Because women are judged in public and people do notice women’s bodies.
Fair, i always forget that.
You’ve never seen a woman’s bare legs in public before?
Ask 100 men what they think of hairy legs on women.
There’s a reason that there is a skirt mentioned as being worn by the babysitter in the story.
Please don’t sit here and pretend that the body hair standard for women and men in western society is at all similar.
As the 100th man, the more hair on people the better.
Your feelings are valid, I just don’t get to bust this one out too often. Couldn’t pass it up.
Found the furry.
Yes!
As the [excluded statical anomaly], it makes no difference.
If only your opinion was the majority!
Why isn’t it?
It’s up to you to choose what you want. If a man doesn’t shave and a woman doesn’t find that attractive… You do the math.
Hell, again, a man won’t know a woman doesn’t shave her legs unless he’s intimate with her anyway.
And then it’s between them. It’s none of our concern.
Trust, there’s a lot of people every day that see my body hair and I’m not being intimate with them.
What’s the opposite of observant? Because whatever that is, you are.
I’m guessing they’re assuming pants and not bare legs?
Then they’re being obtuse.
… are you maybe teensy weensy stoned right now? Baked like a potato? Lit like a Christmas tree? Toasted? Zooted? Zonked? Roasted? Lil bit stoney baloney?
Were you aware that the face and legs are two separate parts of the body?
Really? I had no fucking idea.
The point that you completely glossed over is that women have preferences, some like facial hair some don’t.
So men have or don’t shave their faces accordingly (or according to what they prefer).
That’s all. Go ahead and get up on your cross now because women shave because men somehow make them.
If some unknown man can make you do something, you have a problem.
We’re talking about society treating leg hair on women as abnormal. If you want to see if there’s a societal double standard there then you need to ask how society looks at men’s legs, not their faces.
lol?
Oh silly us, it’s actually women’s fault that the patriarchy forces societal standards on women.
Surely you need to be living in a cave to not see the asymmetry there though. On men facial hair is unattractive for half of women and very attractive for other (making up the stats). On women leg hair is perceived as unattractive for all but most people.
A man which has a stubble, when going out, does not generally think “shit I should shave otherwise everyone will look at me with disdain”. While a women going to swimming but realizes that she has not shaved her legs will generally feel ashamed thinking she will be seen as “not taking care of herself”.