The majority of men do expect and prefer that women are shaved, thus the assumption.
You know, I wasn’t going to call it out in my original comment because it was beside the overall point, but “geeksandmisandry” and now you are interestingly assuming the gender of an anonymous user with a default pfp and the gender-neutral username “dinogatrr”.
I don’t think even if they were a man that this would be a good reason to assume they’re a shitty person (especially because the sample of “men on Tumblr” is going to be vastly different than “men overall” or even “men on social media overall”). But it is an interesting assumption on top of an assumption: they’re a man, and they’re a shitty person who thinks women’s legs are naturally icky.
It’s from experience. Having moved through this world as a woman, these types of views primarily come from men. I’ve had women call out my body hair before because women work to uphold the patriarchy as well.
The phrasing and casual belief that even though women grow body hair it should be seen like cancer and taken off of the body sounds like a man to me.
I’m happy to stand corrected, but I’m also not dumb enough to ignore the teachings I’ve gleaned from living as a woman.
Which is easy to say when your hypothesis is functionally unfalsifiable (used heuristically in support of another functionally unfalsifiable hypothesis).
I can’t stop you from believing it; I can push back and say it’s vibes on top of vibes to legitimize your assumption about a random person you’ve never spoken to who said something that’s totally benign and entirely correct unless you actively ascribe malice to it.
Against my better judgment regarding double standards, I’m going to treat this legitimately unexpected level of misandry with kid gloves compared to how I’d treat even garden-variety misogyny and say that I hope you find peace with any trauma that may have led you to this point. Sincerely, no smarm, no “bless your heart” condescension – I understand what it is to be burdened with a lifetime of systemic distrust through no fault of your own.
Still, there’s nothing more I can say to a closed loop of “men are assumed malicious and a man probably made this statement because this statement is misogynistic and the statement is assumed misogynistic because a man made it and if a man made it then surely it’s misogynistic […]”. Even though we irreconcilably disagree on the OP, and I don’t think your assumptions about men are overall accurate or healthy, I appreciate your polite candor about why you feel the way you do.
I’m glad you can rationalize your prejudice, but nobody should have assumptions made about them for aspects of themselves they cannot control. It isn’t what it is, it’s never too late to change into a good person.
It’s not so much that I make assumptions about individual men rather than it influences how I see and move through the world. I stay alert in areas where I’m vulnerable, I have a resting bitch face, I don’t take the window seat on the bus, etc.
Misogynistic ideas like women are better shaved don’t always come from men, but it’s usually coming from men. And that’s just my personal experience.
The majority of men do expect and prefer that women are shaved, thus the assumption.
You know, I wasn’t going to call it out in my original comment because it was beside the overall point, but “geeksandmisandry” and now you are interestingly assuming the gender of an anonymous user with a default pfp and the gender-neutral username “dinogatrr”.
I don’t think even if they were a man that this would be a good reason to assume they’re a shitty person (especially because the sample of “men on Tumblr” is going to be vastly different than “men overall” or even “men on social media overall”). But it is an interesting assumption on top of an assumption: they’re a man, and they’re a shitty person who thinks women’s legs are naturally icky.
It’s from experience. Having moved through this world as a woman, these types of views primarily come from men. I’ve had women call out my body hair before because women work to uphold the patriarchy as well.
The phrasing and casual belief that even though women grow body hair it should be seen like cancer and taken off of the body sounds like a man to me.
I’m happy to stand corrected, but I’m also not dumb enough to ignore the teachings I’ve gleaned from living as a woman.
Which is easy to say when your hypothesis is functionally unfalsifiable (used heuristically in support of another functionally unfalsifiable hypothesis).
I can’t stop you from believing it; I can push back and say it’s vibes on top of vibes to legitimize your assumption about a random person you’ve never spoken to who said something that’s totally benign and entirely correct unless you actively ascribe malice to it.
I do tend to assume that men I don’t know are malicious as a baseline because they are a danger to women.
Against my better judgment regarding double standards, I’m going to treat this legitimately unexpected level of misandry with kid gloves compared to how I’d treat even garden-variety misogyny and say that I hope you find peace with any trauma that may have led you to this point. Sincerely, no smarm, no “bless your heart” condescension – I understand what it is to be burdened with a lifetime of systemic distrust through no fault of your own.
Still, there’s nothing more I can say to a closed loop of “men are assumed malicious and a man probably made this statement because this statement is misogynistic and the statement is assumed misogynistic because a man made it and if a man made it then surely it’s misogynistic […]”. Even though we irreconcilably disagree on the OP, and I don’t think your assumptions about men are overall accurate or healthy, I appreciate your polite candor about why you feel the way you do.
Prejudice is bad and should be avoided.
And men I don’t know also pose the greatest risk to me as a woman. It is what it is.
I’m glad you can rationalize your prejudice, but nobody should have assumptions made about them for aspects of themselves they cannot control. It isn’t what it is, it’s never too late to change into a good person.
It’s not so much that I make assumptions about individual men rather than it influences how I see and move through the world. I stay alert in areas where I’m vulnerable, I have a resting bitch face, I don’t take the window seat on the bus, etc.
Misogynistic ideas like women are better shaved don’t always come from men, but it’s usually coming from men. And that’s just my personal experience.