I encourage this type of education. Kids need to be held accountable for their actions, just like everyone else.

Normalize humility

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    Its like when i was in high school when people would say “aww feck” and teachers would swear jar us, or tell us off. So everybody just said fuck instead, if your gonna bitch about us “swearing” and using alternate words to comply with your “appropriate language” we might as well make it worth the 25 cents

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    Apparently unpopular opinion but I don’t think teachers should call students names

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      This is such a non insult that your view is hilarious. Oh no a child has been exposed to the world’s most mild of insults heaven forbid.

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      People like you are a big reason republicans view liberals so poorly. Bozo? Really…I had a teacher call a kid retarded in 3rd grade. The parents pulled the kid out of the school and the teacher was fired, but bozo? God damn it

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      Eh, if it’s about their behavior, not them, then that little tinge of embarrassment at doing something antisocial or disruptive stings more when they know they’re being a little shit and reminds them to do better. People judge adults acting up all the time, at least with kids there’s time for feedback to have an effect

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    In what world is it OK to text a teacher? Like how does this person even know their teacher’s phone number? This conversation is exactly what parent teacher conferences are for.

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      Often there are apps specific for school, which I think is totally reasonable. (Although I’d like the schools to use less proprietary software and more open).

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      The majority of my daughter’s teachers in primary and middle school gave out their numbers. Not all, and it wasn’t a requirement, but the majority.

      Not that I ever used them. Teachers work hard enough, they don’t need to be available 24x7.

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        That’s beyond strange to me. The only time I’ve ever used my personal phone for work purposes was the one job I had where they paid for it.

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    A friend of mine is a teacher, and he told me the following story a while back:

    A student had an oral exam and was so nervous that he couldn’t get a word out. So my friend coordinated with the “exam committee” to give the student a second chance, which, fortunately, was possible that very same day thanks to some persuasion among his colleagues. After my friend worked with the student to help him regain his confidence, the second attempt at the exam went better - the student was still very nervous, but overall, it was enough to barely pass the exam. The student was absolutely thrilled, and the examiners were reasonably satisfied.

    My friend thought to himself: All right, that turned out well after all - but unfortunately, no: The student’s parents sued the school because they were dissatisfied with their son’s exam grade. The lawsuit was based on the claim that the exam regulations weren’t strictly followed, since the student had to take the exam twice (with different exam topics, so the other students wouldn’t be at a disadvantage, of course). The parents won the lawsuit, and the court ruled that the oral exam must be repeated.

    So now the completely dismayed student had to take the exam again - a nightmare for the poor guy. The examiners were the same ones who, despite the absurdity of his parents’ demands, remained well-disposed toward him. However, the student was understandably even more nervous the third time - so much so that he once again couldn’t get a single word out. This time, my friend’s hands were tied, since everything had to be completely correct from an administrative standpoint. So, unfortunately, the examiners had no choice but to fail the nervous student, meaning that, thanks to his parents, he ultimately did not receive his diploma.

    So here too: insane parents who even ruined their own son’s graduation because of their unrealistic expectations.

    It’s a real shame, but unfortunately that’s how it went all thanks to the student’s crazy parents…

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        It happens so much sadly. I remember a classmate of mine getting a 9 out of 10 on an exam and when he heard that he started stabbing himself with the pointy end of a compass because it wasn’t a 10 out of 10. Apparently the poor guy was chastised at home if he didn’t get a 9,5 at the least.

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      What country is this where you have to pass an oral exam to graduate and parents can sue schools over exam results?

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        Germany.

        However, the complaint was not directed at the grade itself, but rather at a violation of the examination regulations, which do not allow for a retake of an oral exam simply because the student is too nervous to pass. That is why my friend was unable to secure another exception on the student’s third attempt - everything unfortunately had to be strictly correct.

        I don’t teach myself, but I’ve heard from various friends that lawsuits over the most absurd things are definitely a thing in Germany, too. As a result, teachers have far fewer freedoms than they did ten years ago - and also face much more bureaucratic red tape to document everything in a way that reduces the risk of lawsuits.

        I’m not really familiar with that area myself, but unfortunately, I can easily imagine how frustrating it must be for the teachers.

        Edit: Here is an article that describes the problem (in German).

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        Idk but IB regulations are kinda like this, and ive heard of people actually taking other students/teachers to court over shit. IB is the most fucked up school you could choose ever, do not choose it(speaking from experience). So if your child wants to go on an international line its much better to get some government scolarship kindof thing if thats possible.

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          I went to an IB school 25+ years ago, didn’t seem that crazy then. I’m curious how time has changed this

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            I’m very curious with a vested interest, as my young’un is going to a school with both IB and other types of qualifications on offer to study. How is IB flawed in comparison to, say, GCSE or A levels? Would value any insight.

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    “unacceptable language”

    i’d wager that this parent’s gripe is not about the word “bozo” but that their child’s behavior was criticized.

    accountability is not abuse.

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      Maybe they’re a family of clowns, and they consider “Bozo” to be a racial epithet against their people.

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        Maybe they’re followers of a clown religion where Clown, Bozo the is considered a holy figure? It’d be like taking the Lord’s name in vain!

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          Its gotta be this one. I’ve got three members of my family with registered clown personas, and they’d be happy as clams to be called bozo, but correct you to their actual stage name.

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      I’m terribly sorry sir, I was unaware his stupidity is congenital. I’ll be more mindful of his disability going forward.

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      That sounds like a fun career change, cool beards, getting to hang out in the Caribbean, chests of gold.

      I’ll be joining the pirate school next semester

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        Yeah you thought I was joking. These are the assholes ripping your bosses boss off in the future. Even the pirates‘ clothing sucks nowadays. Burning beard? Best I can do is a fucking vape. And the worst part ? I went to a pirate school

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    Had to look up the derivation ‘for fun’. - 1920, “muscular low-IQ male,” originally appearing in boxing slang (compare bimbo).

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    I don’t believe this with the sole reason being “surely they wouldn’t cry to their parents about being called a bozo”

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      The kid may not have cried about it, but may have only made a passing remark, possibly not even to the parents, who may have overheard and overreacted. It may or may not have happened, but its totally believable.