• quinacridone@mander.xyz
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    18 days ago

    Its like how mitochondrial DNA passes down through the female line only… we are connected to all our mothers going way back into the past, while keeping a part of any children always in the present

    It is beautiful and poetic

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        18 days ago

        Your mitochondria may beg to differ.

        This conversation is not an attack on adopted people or trans women.

        • 𝙈𝙞𝙖@quokk.au
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          18 days ago

          My mitochondria may link me to the person who birthed me, it does not link me to my mother.

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            18 days ago

            My mitochondria may link me to the person who birthed me

            That was the exact point that was made.

            • 𝙈𝙞𝙖@quokk.au
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              18 days ago

              Yes, and mine is that such a person is not my mother. The words used by the person I was responding to and the notion I am challenging that motherhood is biologically linked.

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                18 days ago

                You’re projecting a lot onto these comments.

                Acknowledging how mitochondrial DNA is passed is not a judgment on adopted people.

                • 𝙈𝙞𝙖@quokk.au
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                  I’m explaining my connections with these concepts and how they are not absolute truths.

                  What people think of as a mother/woman is a judgement on how society views mothers/women.

                  I may be a killjoy, but I need to challenge these ways of thinking.

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                    18 days ago

                    You’re attacking allies and very real biological truths of the cis women in here.

                    Scientific facts, like how mitochondrial DNA is passed from cis women to their offspring, are not TERF ideas that need to be challenged.

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                  Nah, they’re pretty rightfully blowing a hole in the side of a boat that was definitely starting to get a bit woo.

                  We are not special unique mystical beings. We are humans

                  • velma@sh.itjust.works
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                    18 days ago

                    What?

                    We can’t even speak about objective facts like DNA transfer through pregnancy here?

                    Are cis women not welcome to share their perspectives here?

                • x7HlPDq9dSNO6v3A9@lemmy.world
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                  17 days ago

                  This honestly doesn’t sound like they’re projecting at all - they speak of their own experience. I think they’re upset because you’ve said that biological attributes would “disagree” with an honest insight into their life’s experience.

                  Their mother - the person who acted in a motherly role in their life. The person who raised them, cared for them, helped them grow - is not product of biological attributes.

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                    17 days ago

                    I think there were two conversations happening and the conversation about how DNA is passed along with the X chromosome was never intended to exclude anyone. Same as linking to the study about changes in the brain during pregnancy.

                    Thank you for explaining the breakdown in communication there, I was sincerely having a difficult time understanding where the hostility was coming from yesterday.

                    It is what it is at this point. I’d like to think my other contributions make it clear my intent has never been to exclude anyone, but I’m aware that I’m not going to be everyone’s cup of tea.