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      Yes but it’s actually 16% that would vote differently. These people are just incapable of admitting having done the wrong thing and admitting regret.

      When given a chance to recast their 2024 votes, in fact, just 84% of Trump voters said they would vote for him again — compared to 91% for Harris voters.

      So while some might prefer to not call it “regret,” 16% would apparently do things differently with hindsight.

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        Dishonesty cuts both ways. Trump has consistently performed better than his polling shows, because an awful lot of people wouldn’t admit that they voted for him. Just because these people say they regret their vote doesn’t mean they actually do.

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      That’s the important part. Only 5% regret their vote. Most people in this thread who are celebrating and laughing, only read the headline.

      This kind of “told you so!” stuff and thinking they were untouchable is what led to the Democrats loss. And will again if people aren’t careful. People need to stop thinking “Not Trump!”, because that doesn’t win elections. Dems need to come up with some good candidates who are more than just “not Trump.”

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        These are articles are for leopardsatemyface crowd. It’s simply about smug hur during. Nothing of value will be accomplished. Probably gonna get worse.

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        5% regret their vote

        Read that, then look at how small election splits are. This is a good thing.

        Do we get frustrated and angry as we wish everyone who defaulted to voting right because their parents did and they don’t know better and can’t be bothered to read real news? Yes.

        Should we be happy when enough people show change to be visible on the horizon? Also yes.

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          because their parents did and they don’t know better and can’t be bothered to read real news?

          OR some people just don’t believe the same things you do, and they vote Republican. Welcome to democracy.

          Not everyone who votes differently than you is just ignorant and can’t be bothered to read news.

          Pushing the fallacy that Republicans/republican voters are ignorant or uninformed, is what made you all lose to Trump. Twice. You lost to Trump 2 different fucking times. Look in a mirror!

          I know plenty of republicans who are smart and a force to be reckoned with. I don’t agree with or subscribe to a lot of their views, but I wouldn’t call them ignorant.

          Thinking they’re ignorant is what fucked the Dem party in the first place.

          Also, before people attack me for being a Trump. Nah, you can attack me for being “BoTh SiDeS” though, because I think both sides suck equally. I’m a third party voter. And very proud of it.

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            The ones you speak of don’t regret their vote, and never will, so I have no need to address them as it relates to the statistic. Also, ignorant doesn’t mean dumb. Lastly, I’m glad you feel your third-party vote had an impact, vs voting in primaries to push the right candidate that could succeed. (if one happens).

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              Lastly, I’m glad you feel your third-party vote had an impact

              Thanks. It had an impact on me, as it’s my right to vote for who I want to win. Without regard of who people are afraid of winning. If the Democrats are really concerned, they can pick better candidates.

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        Have you read the article? Because it’s not 5% but 16% that would vote differently:

        So while some might prefer to not call it “regret,” 16% would apparently do things differently with hindsight.

        Also 5% is more than enough to tip the results.

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          The article is saying a measurable 13–16% slice of Trump voters now shows some regret or would change their vote, roughly double earlier levels and double Harris voters’ regret. The “5%” is the narrowest possible definition. That’s why different people are quoting different numbers from the exact same piece.

          From article: “Just to underscore, these surveys suggest between 1 in 8 and 1 in 6 Trump voters express some measure of regret for their 2024 votes. Were those percentages to desert the GOP in the 2026 midterm elections, it would almost undoubtedly be a wave election for Democrats.”

          But that’s great news then, right? Nothing to be worried about then, right? No reason for everyone to be mad. In 2 years, Dems win. Right?

          I mean, I’ll be voting third party unless Dems choose AOC, but you all should be fine without me. Right? Hmmm…

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          You’re giving the average person too much credit. Majority of people are genuinely incapable of either learning a lesson or applying the lesson elsewhere. Like sure they may now see some bad results of their vote and may regret it but they’re not actually internalizing any of it, they’re not working on themselves to be less susceptible to authoritarianism or to break to down any of the bullshit they believed on the way to making that vote they “regret”.

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              I didn’t mean it as an attack on you or anything, was just referring to the “5% is enough to tip the vote”. These people won’t vote differently even we do get to have a halfway “normal” election.

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        The party is losing support poll after poll after poll, and they think attacking leftists is going to help. The polls are screaming that they are going in the wrong direction, and they are completely obsessed with Hasan Piker right now. There is a coordinated effort going on across social media that is so sad and obvious. They are flailing and crashing out and it’s pathetic. I’ve never seen a party more outwardly hostile to its own voters than the mother fucking Democratic party. The Republicans at least feign like they care about their voter’s desires (mostly because they just tell their voters what they want).

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          The Democratic party isn’t there to represent left-wing voters. They’re there to make sure that left-wing voters don’t get represented by any party

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      It’s possible that some of them don’t want to admit to a stranger that they’d change their vote.

      But, most of it is probably choice-supportive bias or post-purchase rationalization. They believe they’re smart, right-thinking people and that they couldn’t have made a horrible mistake, so they look for reasons to feel like they made the right choice, despite all the evidence against it. They’re supported by a whole group of propaganda networks that explain away every bad thing that Trump does and shift the blame to democrats, liberals, trans people, immigrants, non-whites, women, etc.

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      Most of the ones I know are unapologetic about their support for him, when asked. They’re definitely less vocal than when he started off his 2nd term, though.

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        Because a large % of them are incapable of admitting they were that wrong about something so consequential. Many of them will continue supporting him to preserve their ego, even as their own family members stop speaking to them.

        Ask me how I know.

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    This is so sad, that he is a rapist, and ruin the economy, takes healthcare away from people, illegally arrest immigrants, while having his Gestapo forces shoot people in the face, destroys US democracy and fail to help old allies in Ukraine didn’t do it.
    Even entering an illegal war and committing war crimes didn’t do it.
    But the gas increasing 1 dollar, that’s the straw that breaks the camels back!! Except it didn’t totally.

    Paraphrasing:

    Today 62% said they were “very confident” in their vote.
    Another 21% of Trump voters said they were still “confident” in their votes but had “some concerns.”

    That’s a whopping 83% of Trump voters who are still OK with their vote and how things are going!!

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      YTs in the imperial core are not even close to being rational actors. They’ve lived their whole lives inside the bubble.

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      It’s cult, and Trump knew what he was doing. He said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any support. Now he literally admit to and rape kids and they still blindly follow him. Hell they probably offer up their own children.

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        Yeah, cultists tend to go all in. IIRC the heavens gate guys cut their balls off for the leader. These fuckers will swallow a gas price increase.

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    Another hopeful sounding headline telling us all what we want to hear.

    Meanwhile in the text of the article:

    When given a chance to recast their 2024 votes, in fact, just 84% of Trump voters said they would vote for him again

    Just 84%?!

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      I bet it’s even higher than that in actuality. There are people who know they should be embarrassed by it, but still support him anyway.

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      That’s still a massive loss of support. In a free election, that would mean one of the worst election losses in history.

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        that would mean one of the worst election losses in history.

        That’s just because of the stupid way elections work IN USA, not because there has been a massive change in the opinion of the population. Theoretically you can get ALL the seats in congress with 51% of the vote, if they are distributed right.

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    They’ll vote again for him and his ilk. Being unhappy doesn’t make you admit you’re wrong. Also, the weight of gas prices doesn’t compare to the pleasure of inflicting cruelty on the non-white “others”…

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    if november elections happen (big if), he’s gonna rig them big time. We all know that.

    Because, otherwise, if he wins again, and does it fairly, the US deserve to become a big north korea.

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      Not that I put anything past this administration, but in order for him to “win again” we would need to rewrite the constitution as the 22nd amendment specifically bans more than two terms of a presidency. I’m not saying he won’t try because they are indeed deplorable monsters.

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    All those Americans from rural areas that voted for trump because “he is bringing back jesus”, will change their mind quickly once they can’t afford shit. murricans can be religious zealots, but money and greed is the most successful cult up there.

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      All those Americans from rural areas that voted for trump because “he is bringing back jesus”, will change their mind quickly

      Nope. That’s one of the main problems with religious fundamentalist weirdos: they tend not to change their minds based on facts or objective reality.

      murricans can be religious zealots, but money and greed is the most successful cult up there.

      That’s assuming that the two cults don’t overlap MUCH more than they diverge in the US. Which they do.

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        they tend not to change their minds based on facts or objective reality.

        It’s weird how much people expect the irrational to behave rationally. The state is literally committing genocide and waging war under the pretense of the old testament. I don’t think it’s even possible to act rationally under this death cult. Who can even take this shit seriously?

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    Here are the percentages of 2024 Trump voters who disapproved of him in each of these areas:

    • Gas prices: 45%

    Does that mean that the majority of Trump voters approve of Trump’s gas prices? A nation of masochists, apparently.

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      Imperial media obscures the connection. I heard NPR talking about higher gas prices with ZERO mention of trump/iran. And, if they do mention it, they usually blame Iran at least implicitly but often explicitly.

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      There was an article a few weeks ago where folks were interviewed at a gas station in Pennsylvania. Two of the Trump voters who was fine with the higher prices said it was an acceptable price to pay to keep the nation safe. They really thought Iran was going to attack the US, possibly with nukes.

      I have no hope of changing the minds who fervently believe in that crap

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        They really thought Iran was going to attack the US, possibly with nukes.

        Ofc this disinformation is central to the hegemonic narrative and widely disseminated by NPR, NYTimes, etc. Not to mention the overtly fascist media.