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    This is correct. AQ declared war on the US, designating the WTC as a target in their war based on the same logic the US uses when looking for targets to blow up: economic hubs are fair game, and civilian casualties are collateral damage even when directly targeted.

    Good for the CBC on ending the gaslighting.

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      For the unfamiliar it’s under chapter (3) of the letter hosted on the astronomy page of the university of Alabama for some reason.

      Another argument made is that Americans themselves keep voting for the politicians which do invade the Middle East

      https://pages.astronomy.ua.edu/white/worldviews/binladen.txt

      (b) The American people are the ones who pay the taxes which fund the planes that bomb us in Afghanistan, the tanks that strike and destroy our homes in Palestine, the armies which occupy our lands in the Arabian Gulf, and the fleets which ensure the blockade of Iraq. These tax dollars are given to Israel for it to continue to attack us and penetrate our lands. So the American people are the ones who fund the attacks against us, and they are the ones who oversee the expenditure of these monies in the way they wish, through their elected candidates.

      And let’s not forget about the Jihad on global warming

      (xi) You have destroyed nature with your industrial waste and gases more than any other nation in history. Despite this, you refuse to sign the Kyoto agreement so that you can secure the profit of your greedy companies and*industries.

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          I don’t think Bin Laden’s reasoning there holds up but factually Americans do have a choice to not vote for one of the two parties. They just choose not to. And when you people to vote for a third party they even start yelling at you.

          Not to mention that the bombing of brown people isn’t even on their mind as a reason to vote third party. Only their free healthcare is.

          With the DSA we’re once again seeing Palestinians being the first thing to compromise on for free healthcare.

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            Maslow’s hierarchy and all that. I wouldn’t expect people to vote for much else than their material interests, perceived or real. Anything outside of that is a bonus that tends to be confined to smaller parts of society. Besides, voting third party when the third party is not using the electoral system for revolutionary purposes is considered pointless by some. Personall I think on the whole the DSA is doing the right thing given what the current env allows. Obv won’t be enough for significant or lasting change but this wave is putting the dangerous thoughts in a lot of people’s minds. We’ll see where it goes in a few years time.

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              Well yeah but we can excuse Billionaires like this too. “They were just trying to get their bag”. Americans are at large responsible for the suffering of others. Nowhere was this more clear than the 2024 election where most Liberals decided to vote for Genocide Joe despite the genocide on Palestinians. Being fully clear to everyone.

              And no that wasn’t a principled position. It was because Biden wasn’t Genociding Americans but brown people. If 99% and 100% Hitler were putting white Americans in concentration camp a third party would win in a heartbeat.

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                Not excuse but explain. Kinda why we’d have to take billionaire wealth by force. As far as I understand Marxism, that’s one of its main points - that people tend not to do what’s moral or ethical, but instead adjust their ethics to match their material interests.

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    if US bombing children in schools or israel bombing orphanages and hospitals are not terrorist attacks , then 9/11 is not a terrorist attack either

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      Nono, you misunderstand. It’s a terrorist attack when it is committed by non-state actors. State’s are allowed to do as much violence as they want and it’s totally legitimate unless that state is from the imperial periphery

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    “But CBC News does not itself designate specific groups as terrorists, or specific acts as terrorism, regardless of the region or the events, because these words are so loaded with meaning, politics and emotion that they can end up being impediments to our journalism.”

    Based.

    Also the comment section is full meltdown. American snowflakes really don’t like getting half the treatment US-Israel victims get every day.

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    “I’m saying it dude: America deserved 9/11”

    Waow (based based based based)

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    Frankly it was the most legitimate military target on earth. The beating heart of global finance capital and the engine of imperialism. Sure the janitors and the like were civilians but there were a shitload of legitimate targets in there. If we are gonna make bullshit claims about Hamas or whoever using human shields then this is no different.

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    Much like Reuters, CBC only uses the terms when quoting others who are describing events — despite even Osama bin Laden, who approved and funded the attacks, describing it as “blessed terror.”

    The solution is obvious: refer to 9/11 as “Blessed Terror” in the headlines. Problem solved!

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    I dunno, I’d rather they called it a terrorist attack and that the US deserves more of them.

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    “One of the biggest pump ‘n dump schemes of airline stock portfolios in the early part of the century.”

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      no. Americans don’t have pump and dump. they have “investor opportunity”

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    If they call it a terrorist attack then they have to say who the terrorists are and 19 of the 20 hijakckers were from an ally. An ally who trained them for this operation. But the price of oil is too important for a few thousand Americans and a national tragedy to affect it.