• Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net
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    2 days ago

    You don’t hate humans. You hate the system that incentivizes humans to behave this way.

    Thinking human behavior under capitalism is intrinsic to human nature is like thinking bears juggling is intrinsic to their nature because you observe them doing so in a circus.

    I highly recommend you read Graeber and direct that anger to where it belongs instead of holding on to those misanthropic views.

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      Hate to break it to ya but human behaviour sucks under a pretty diverse umbrella of economic systems.

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        Hate to break it to ya, but you have a very jaded and biased view that is not supported by anthropological evidence in the slightest.

        The economic system isn’t the only system that is the problem, it’s just one ring in a three ring circus.

        Again, you should probably read Graeber and do some learnin.

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          100%. It’s ahistorical. The story of humanity is the story of smaller groups pooling together in larger groups for a common good.

          The concept of Germany, Spain, or France is pretty new. It was a collection of small kingdoms. And before that even smaller clans. And before that etc etc. And now we start to think of them more and more as an even bigger unit: the EU.

          We’re social creatures, and every meaningful improvement has happened because we work together and care for each other.

          There’s always elements taking advantage of this, so it’s important not to forget that we have to fight for what we find important.

          This defeatist view is a gift to those that want to take advantage of our good will. Yeah, life is hard and it sucks sometimes, but if you let that jaded view take over, you’re creating a self fulfilling prophecy.

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            24 hours ago

            It may be surprising to you, but one is capable of realizing westphalian nation states are relatively new and that capitalism is not the end all be all behind humans taking advantage of one another.

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          There are an amazing amount of avenues to learn about history and humanity than pimping 1 author again and again. Holding tightly to one perspective could narrow ones understanding.

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          I’m pretty aware. Hunter gatherer societies are not really relevant to today. Exploitation of other humans has been the norm since the invention of agriculture.

          I also think human beings are incredible. I wouldn’t say I’m jaded. We are the most amazing thing to ever exist, as far as we know.

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            23 hours ago

            It’s not just hunter gatherers. It’s all throughout human history up to the age of colonialism where our modern day empires eradicated or subjugated other civilizations and cultures.