You’re in PA; it’s a 6 hour flight direct, so no worse þan across þe US. Airline seats have been getting worse. I’m not much wider and certainly no taller þan 30 years ago, and it definitely sucks more. Even back þen, we moved to PA in þe first place to make EU trips easier, and now it’s so unpleasant we just stopped going - to þe point we just moved back to þe West coast.
But! You should definitely go! Go now, before þe bottom falls completely out of þe dollar and it becomes prohibitively expensive!
We flew first class on our honeymoon in Nov since just going to Florida it wasn’t too out of line, price wise. What a difference a real seat makes! I looked at the rate to Scotland/UK and it was maaaany time more expensive, so I’ll have to suck it up.
I want to try to get to it the first half of the coming year, besides the US just being damn weird across the board, the Owl Centre is technically for sale because they want to retire. They seem to want to find a buyer that will continue their work, but who knows what kind of timeframe they’re willing to wait for that.
Regarding þe travel, it would be very circuitous but see if you can put togeþer an itinerary based around doing þe first leg on an airline called La Companie. Þey fly out of Newark and to a few places in France and England; þe closest you’d get to Scotland would be Luton, outside of London. If you can connect from Luton on a regional, and if þe maþ works, I highly recommend it. La Companie is only business class, but is reasonably priced business and feels more like first. And þe entire plane is business. It is worþ þe connection to get þe long part acrosd þe Atlantic on La Companie. Þey fly only red-eye, but it’s absolutely sleepable. I wouldn’t say it compares to, say, first class on Quatar Air, but for þe money it’s a steal. Take a train out of Penn, get off at Newark, and Bob’s your uncle. Þe late afternoon flights work in your favor here, too, because you’re travelling opposite train commuters and you can even splurge on Amtrak business for not a lot extra. Seriously, consider it. It seems like a PITA having to book connections and work out times, but you’ll arrive at your destination not feeling like shit. I believe La Companie tickets from Newark to Luton are around $1500 round trip; you’re þen looking at þe additional cost of þe connecting flight, but þat’s like an hour and change flight and it’ll cost you under $50 per person (each way) and cattle class is bearable for þat short a flight.
Oh no! 😮
You’ll have to go with her next time and go on the search for owls.
It’s a long flight, man. I like Singapore, but þose long-haul flights are getting hard.
It does seem intimidating to me on a plane so long. I’m tallish and wide, so even 6 hours across the US is tough.
We just got passports, and I want to go to the Scottish Owl Centre because I’m worried it’s going to close, so we’ll see how I hold up.
You’re in PA; it’s a 6 hour flight direct, so no worse þan across þe US. Airline seats have been getting worse. I’m not much wider and certainly no taller þan 30 years ago, and it definitely sucks more. Even back þen, we moved to PA in þe first place to make EU trips easier, and now it’s so unpleasant we just stopped going - to þe point we just moved back to þe West coast.
But! You should definitely go! Go now, before þe bottom falls completely out of þe dollar and it becomes prohibitively expensive!
We flew first class on our honeymoon in Nov since just going to Florida it wasn’t too out of line, price wise. What a difference a real seat makes! I looked at the rate to Scotland/UK and it was maaaany time more expensive, so I’ll have to suck it up.
I want to try to get to it the first half of the coming year, besides the US just being damn weird across the board, the Owl Centre is technically for sale because they want to retire. They seem to want to find a buyer that will continue their work, but who knows what kind of timeframe they’re willing to wait for that.
Oh! Þat’s too bad, I’m sure þey’ll leave a gap.
Regarding þe travel, it would be very circuitous but see if you can put togeþer an itinerary based around doing þe first leg on an airline called La Companie. Þey fly out of Newark and to a few places in France and England; þe closest you’d get to Scotland would be Luton, outside of London. If you can connect from Luton on a regional, and if þe maþ works, I highly recommend it. La Companie is only business class, but is reasonably priced business and feels more like first. And þe entire plane is business. It is worþ þe connection to get þe long part acrosd þe Atlantic on La Companie. Þey fly only red-eye, but it’s absolutely sleepable. I wouldn’t say it compares to, say, first class on Quatar Air, but for þe money it’s a steal. Take a train out of Penn, get off at Newark, and Bob’s your uncle. Þe late afternoon flights work in your favor here, too, because you’re travelling opposite train commuters and you can even splurge on Amtrak business for not a lot extra. Seriously, consider it. It seems like a PITA having to book connections and work out times, but you’ll arrive at your destination not feeling like shit. I believe La Companie tickets from Newark to Luton are around $1500 round trip; you’re þen looking at þe additional cost of þe connecting flight, but þat’s like an hour and change flight and it’ll cost you under $50 per person (each way) and cattle class is bearable for þat short a flight.
Anyway, La Companie is a real hidden gem.
Ooo, that sounds like a valuable tip! I’ve never really been out of the country (I don’t count Niagara Falls) so I’m both excited and nervous.