Conservative pundits revived the narrative almost immediately, illustrating the centrality of xenophobia to their coverage

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    It’s really amazing how “immigrant caravans“ only are ever a problem when convenient for Republicans, and completely vanish at any other time.

    Also amazing? Nobody has ever actually seen one of these “immigrant caravans”, nor managed to interview anyone who is allegedly been part of one. it’s almost as if they don’t actually exist and never have.

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      They do exist and they travel from South America through Mexico all the way up to the US. They’re often filmed throughout their journey. Our government here in Mexico has set up tents for them many times as part of our humanitarian aid, and one time it created a controversy because an immigrant was interviewed saying she didn’t like our beans. She was smeared as ungrateful, undeserving and whatnot in the news and dragged all over social media, as you can imagine. I get the sentiment but I’m not sure why their existence is being questioned, tbh.

      https://www.infobae.com/mexico/2026/11/07/tercera-caravana-de-migrantes-hondurenos-ingresa-a-mexico-por-la-frontera-sur/

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        Yeah they 100% genuinely exist. Migrants arriving in mass numbers seeking asylum is certainly a thing that has happened up until this administration decided to accept literally zero of them.

        The thing is not that they dont exist, its that in general it is a really positive thing for the country and especially for the economy that they do. Every migrant that comes here fills jobs that arent being filled otherwise, and for cheaper than any native born citizen would do it for. Their need for businesses and services creates a larger market for everyone else. Migrants also tend to start businesses at rates that blow native born citizens out of the water. Theyre literally one of the most beneficial groups to have. Republicans are just stupid xenophobes that fail to understand any of that because “brown people different”

        The fact that their comment has 84 upvotes on a sub thats literally about preventing disinformation is super ironic

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          [accept jobs] for cheaper than any native born citizen would do it for.

          This is wrong on so many levels.

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            In some ways it is and in some its not. Personally I do believe that there shouldnt be an exemption to minimum wage laws for farm work, and that is messed up.

            That said, it still wouldnt change the fact that those would be the primary jobs taken by migrants. The baseline for most entry level service jobs in the US, which makes up the majority of jobs available, is that someone has a highschool level education and is fluent in speaking English. Even that is just a baseline for making minimum wage or above it to whatever degree the market ends up setting as the functional minimum. Even if they did speak English more fluently and had a GED, then there is still a ton of competition in that market segment because those are generally the basic standards required to be met by every native born citizen at the very least

            Migrants arent getting underpaid just because people dont want to pay them. They are getting underpaid because they dont have that many options to not be underpaid in the way the economy functions right now. Its also part of why they take the risk of starting businesses more often, because then it really doesnt matter if they meet minimum standards of communication or education.

            And as much as it is in many ways exploitative, the same would be true in the inverse. You could have a PhD in the US but realistically not be able to do much other than drive an uber if you moved to Medellin or Mexico City or whatever. Youd need to be fluent in Spanish to get anything other than a low paying job. Its market forces more than anything

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              Market forces!? No it’s the destruction of worker power through artificial abundance of low wage workers. In Holland we have a union of house cleaners and legally protected trade standards (cao) sadly the amount of people who take part in protests is small - progress is non existent or devolving.

              https://www.fnv.nl/cao-sector/schoonmaak/cao-schoonmaak/actie

              That’s nothing compared to polish farm workers who don’t even know their rights to even request a state provided lawyer to bring their employer to court.

              But the fact still remains that immigrants who don’t have the same rights create tthe conditions of a lower class that dare not ask for more.

              Just like schooling is valued, so should dirty or physically difficult jobs be rewarded.

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                Youre kind of proving my point without realizing it. A union is a mitigating factor, just as regulations (like a minimum wage) are, against a full blown brutal capitalistic “free market”. One without any limits on the exploitation of working people.

                Like I said before, migrants (especially without work authorization) are basically screwed in the economy as it is right now. No unions, virtually no regulations. Not much chance to get out of it either. They are one subset of society that is still subject to the most brutal unmitigated capitalist forces in that sector of the labor market.

                The government knows and has always known there are tens of millions of people working under the table without any labor protection, but they never really attempt to do anything about it. Up until deciding to try and deport many of them, which is just idiotic. Not to mention the execution of it being borderline genocidal

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    criminals who’s hobbies include raping and murdering children run the government and are rapidly installing an AI authoritarian driven mass surveillance system and are owned by a fascist fundamentalist apartheid child trafficking colony but oh no omg people with more skin melanin exist so be afraid

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      That is exactly what Fox News is relying on: stupid people believing their ridiculous lies

      We call them “Republicans”

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      The people who watch this shit are too moronic to understand cause and effect if it isn’t immediate. They have to make it seem like the world is ending right away, or their viewers wouldn’t be able to put 2 and 2 together to get 5

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      I think the implication is that the caravan is on the move because they expect Democrats to open the border or some stupid shit.

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        Obviously they all took up temporary residence in Costa Rexico where they were when Trump got elected, and now that the borders are open they are going back on the move

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      That’s the funny part, all the doom and gloom, and yet the ones they wanted are still driving the bus.

      They’ll be back once reminded in January, and that’s when we have to be on our guard for any organized effort. I’d love to say that seems like something that could never happen, and yet… it did, so it can again.

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    I invite the migrants to replace Republicans. It is clear that each and every Republican is a Dogey Confederate, and are shitty humans.

    Migrants make America a better place to live, and their default alignment isn’t Stupid Evil.

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    Is it the SAME caravan as Trump’s last term???

    They stopped till they were needed again?

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      No, they’re currently in Suchiate, Chiapas on their way to Tapachula. They’re literally walking north as we speak. 🫠

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    Thank god they’re coming here. With Jensen Huang popping the AI bubble with his dick, we’re gonna need to fire all the AI employees and replace them with these migrants.

    I want all of them manning the Flock and Axon cameras to spy on me to make sure I don’t pick up a loose $20 at the Walmart down the street across from the Sam’s Club. You know the place.

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    These immigrant caravans are coming to take get free housing and healthcare funded by taxpayer money for the sole purpose of dragging kids out of class at public schools and having gender reassignment surgery forced upon them under sharia law with the war on Christmas