Not only are image posts less accessible, they’re much lower effort. This community was much better when it was just structured jokes as text posts. Now it’s getting posts with the less than pointless “rule” crap and it’s slowly becoming yet another s#%$post community and losing what made it special.
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I don’t get it
Personally, when its an image that is an actual dad joke I find them amusing.
I think a much better requirement would be that the image must actually be a dad joke. There’s been one or two I’ve seen recently that definitely tiptoes the line between “a dad does this” and “dad joke”
but I also think looking at the recent jokes, I much prefer them in image form over text form as it adds context that normally would have to be added via words.
Like I do agree pictures that are strictly text and add no other context are annoying but, for the most part the images usually add to the joke.
… that wasn’t funny at all!
Communities should be welcoming, for sure. But that doesn’t mean communities should just blindly allow everything.
The moderators are responsible for first, talking to the community to find out what the community wants the community to be. Then, the mods should be pruning posts that do not fit. Then, anything that fits should be left to the community to upvote or downvote.
source: I’ve been a mod in various places for more than 25 years.
On the topic: To me, the best format of the joke is the title leading up to the punchline in the expanded text. A Dad Joke should be relatively short - it’s not a story. It is the bare minimum to set up the terrible terrible pun that is the punchline. Generally speaking, an image is not a dad joke, it is a meme. It can be funny. It can have a pun. But not all puns are dad jokes.
It is absolutely subjective, but I think the community would be best served by allowing a single format. With possible exceptions - it’s up to the mods to interpret what fits and what doesn’t.
A case example of an exception, or at least a deviation - and where moderator input can make a difference. I found r/nottheonion abandoned after someone linked to it and wished it was active. I made it active. As I was building it, there was some submission about a cat or cats or something like that. When I saw it, it had a dozen comments, most of which were “Cat.” So… I realized this owuld be funny. I started removing any comment that wasn’t “Cat.” (or “cat” or “Cat” or similar). Of course that meant removing a few funny comments that weren’t “Cat”, but it was H I L A R I O U S to open the thread and see nested “cat” comments all the way down. It was a wildly popular post and helped grow the community.
To me, that encapulates what a mod does: Makes decisions on behalf of the community, with the benefit of the community in mind. I removed valid, funny comments - but in doing so, in that thread only - helped create something so much better. And that’s the other point: In other threads, I only removed rule-breaking comments (personal attacks, bigotry).
So no matter what the community here agrees on, I hope the mods will help make it happen.
But I hope the community will not allow memes to take over. Let those be posted in another community.
Exactly. Like how can you even tell if it’s a dad joke anymore? It used to be a parent.
This is a safe space. All parents are dads here regardless of equipment (or preference).
Wholeheartedly agree on everyone being welcome. My comment was itself a dad joke in its phrasing (a parent / apparent).
It was not a parent.
It used to though.
I’m still keeping my stance of “if it’s groan/facepalm-inducing, it’s a dad joke and it fits”.
This one, for example, is a fitting dadjoke and it works much better in picture form.
As long as posts respect that, they’re fine by me. There’s still a distinction between dad jokes and more generic “memes/shitposts”.
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It works just fine in text.
You can write it in text, but it works much better as a picture.
You don’t have the context of it being at a “meeting”, and saying that to guitars. And adding that to a text joke makes it a bit too long and convoluted. In picture you just need one balloon, and it’s perfect.
I don’t think it’s worth to ban those type of posts just for fear of turning into a generic shitpost community, so far the only non-dad jokes (as a category) I’ve seen upvoted in here are the couple “jokes about dads” that have been posted recently, and if they start getting spammed too much we can restrict those specifically.
Couldn’t we ask folks to tag posts if they are images and then let people filter as they please?
(I may be wrong but I think anything that lowers the barrier to participation is probably a good thing, especially for something as small as the fediverse.)
Filtering won’t help much if the community just posts images, and when image posts get hundreds more votes than the traditional text posts, that’s what will get posted more and more, letting the front page influence what “fits” here instead of the topic of the community.
I mean, if a fediverse community gets bombarded by fediverse users submitting post which:
A) they think fit B) some others think fit And C) can be filtered
Given the tiny fedi numbers, this seems like a good problem to have?
If it’s a big thing, surely we could make, recommend and enjoy a dadjokesforpurists splinter?
(Admittedly, not sober now so…)
How about not inages of text but still allow images if the dad joke is visual?
Most could be explained in text, and should be in alt text, but sometimes the image really does add a lot.
What if it is an image that looks like something that has been faxed a dozen times?
We call that antique.
Like a fox without a tail?
I think it’s a broad generalization, and there are some jokes that only really work in image form (example 1 / example 2). Even the post I think you’re referring to wouldn’t really work without the image (except the random cat isn’t really necessary).
If anything I’d say it’s nice when the title text is setup to a joke, with the content (text or image) being the punchline. I personally try to come up with my own punchline before checking the description, so the format really works out. Agreed that the “rule” titles are low effort and belong in !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone but i just don’t upvote those personally.
Your two first examples are literally a screenshot of a text joke.
The one with the buckets is a loose fit, IMO.
I get your point, I just think the examples you picked work better as counter examples.
Sure maybe the one with Cher could do without the picture of her, but i think it enhances the joke.
The one of the text with dad is one of the highest upvoted posts in this community, and just contact name and the position of the iMessage bubbles tells so much, that had it been described in text only, it wouldn’t be a good joke IMO.
it’s nice when the title text is setup to a joke, with the content (text or image) being the punchline. I personally try to come up with my own punchline before checking the description, so the format really works out.
This is the best form of this community, imo. I still think images are bad even in the post body, but at least it’d stem the meme-ification of the posts. The main problem I see building is that image posts are easy and popular on the front page, where votes are given regardless of community, and it won’t take much attention seeking to leave this community a shell of what it was.
We’re HARDLY getting enough posts in the community to be complaining about new content.
Quality over quantity.
Then upvote the quality stuff and downvote the crappy stuff. The assumption that images are automatically low quality is specious to begin with - plenty of other commentors here have shown examples of good image posts.
And I, in another comment, showed how image posts could be rendered in text. I also wrote a much expanded opinion about the role of moderators vs. the community, too, but whatever. Because upvotes/downvotes don’t have much to do with the community or fitness. Surely you’ve noticed that things get upvoted that are in the wrong community all the time, in which case why even have communities?
image posts could be rendered in text
Yes, but that doesn’t really address the assumption that text is better than images by default. IMO your example loses much of the punch that makes the image funny.
here here
Where?
Is this a granddad joke?
Back in my day, if you wanted images on the internet, it would have to be with ASCII art.
This reminds me of my typing class in junior high where we made ascii art on our typewriters; typically around holidays as a means of keeping us busy.
~Do with that information what you will.~
I think this counts as a valid dad joke image
