I thought Constellation (Apple TV) had a fairly convoluted plot. It got cancelled, unfortunately - and I did broadly understand it, but I felt it was more of a knot than Dark.
Twin peaks?
Every season makes you scrap any theories you had. Still peak tv.
I had to rewatch Dark just to follow the plot
I found a flowchart online. It only somewhat helped.
Definitely Dark. Also, it is one of the best shows ever (but not the dubbed version–one of the worst English dubbings I have heard in decades).
Exactly what I came to say on both the show otself and watching it in the original German with subtitles.
I put off watching it for over a year because I just didn’t feel like reading the subtitles. I shouldn’t have put it off.
I’m not sure anyone but the creator/writer/star (all the same person) knew what The OA was about.
Fringe.
It starts off fairly “normal” and easy to understand/follow but then you get into later seasons with the same characters from different dimensions and it goes from like investigation different fringe events to being like “oh we ARE the fringe event” and then you have the same character from a different dimension forming relationships with characters from different dimensions and you get confused and forget which is the evil dimension(s) cause those characters are now good?
What I liked about Fringe is that every season is its own little contained story. They all have their own tone and genre. For better or worse.
And best of all it actually ended. Too many shows either get cancelled or go on so long until they’re awful.
Google “Once Upon A Time family tree” to get a hint at how needlessly overcomplicated that show became.
I gave up after Peter Pan, but while those were the first really bad episodes, it was racing downhill before then. First season was fire, one or two after that was pretty good.
At some point my wife was watching and she said “Oh my God, you won’t believe who [X] is!” And I said “[Y]'s father?” and she said “How did you know??!” and I said “Because everyone is someone else’s father on this show!”
I seem to recall 12 Monkeys being kind of confusing.
Great pick, 12 Monkeys (show) was so convoluted! They had an astroparticle physics grad student at UC Irvine, Sophia Gad-Nasr, as their science advisor so it’s convoluted but well informed
Raised by Wolves -
Raised by Wolves centers on two androids Father and Mother, tasked with raising human children on Kepler-22b after the Earth is destroyed by a great war. As religious differences threaten to tear apart the burgeoning colony of humans, the androids learn that controlling the beliefs of humans is a treacherous and difficult task.
That Wikipedia premise doesn’t even touch on the weirdness of this show. It is without a doubt the most metal 🤘 show I’ve ever seen.
Tap for spoiler
At one point, an android gives birth to a giant flying snake, a woman becomes a tree, a sea monster/mermaid kidnaps a baby by eating it with its chest
That show is fucking brutal and confusing. Nathan Explosion approves.
Still don’t understand how something like Constellation gets canceled, but “Invasion” gets renewed for multiple seasons. 🤷♂️ I’m guessing they were concerned Constellation was too much like Dark Matter, which was in development at the time.
That said, Constellation and Dark Matter both might have been better off if they’d been designed as one-season shows to begin with (as would a lot of what’s on streaming).
From? It’s still ongoing and I’ve been watching it from the beginning, but it makes little sense and actually seems to get MORE confusing each season. I love it, though. I can’t lie.
I’ve heard it compared to Lost, so I’d be worried there isn’t an actual throughline and the confusion is literally just bad writing.
I fear this will be one of those shows that will solve very little in the end. But I’m still here for the mystery!
This is one of the few shows I’ve rage-quit.
I felt like the writers didn’t respect their viewers. They’ve concocted this bullshit pretzel of a universe full of mysterious phenomena, but there’s no possible coherent explanation that will tie it all together.
It feels like they’re just writing one episode at a time until they get cancelled, but they have no real plan.
That contradicts what they’ve actually said about the show, but as a fan I don’t exactly disagree. I feel like they’re painting themselves into a really tight corner. They say they have a plan and all that, I believe less and less each episode. Still watching though. It’s this season and one more. I’m down for that.
Manifest was rather confusing, especially when it went all biblical.
The 100 was too, after a bit everyone’s allegiance was flip-flopping multiple times per episode. You never knew who was standing with who.
You mean besides Lost?
X-Files
12 Monkeys
Peaky Blinders from season 3 on.
That plot was just non existent.
