As an foreigner and outsider. Does USA not have a system of designated opposition? Isn’t it their duty to keep the government in check? Am I missing something? I don’t even know who is the opposition leader no more. I assume the president nominee who didn’t win is the opposition leader? Haven’t seen or heard anything major since the election.
The opposition party has very little to no power in the American system.
Their cute little system they attempted at checks and balances are no longer balanced.
I saw the piece about 'shadow docket" by Last week tonight this morning on youtube. It is quite timely, very infuriating, and scary.
There is no specific appointment for the losing presidential nominee. They just lose and move on.
The idea with the US government is checks and balances between government branches. Congress and SCOTUS have some degree of power over the president and each branch can keep the other two in check. Historically it has worked well, but things have been changing quickly in the last 10-20 years, but especially with the two Trump admins.
The current situation with Trump is particularly different for a few reasons:
- Trump is incredibly popular with primary right-wing voter base. There is evidence this may be changing, but it’s been the case for 10+ years now.
- Trump’s popularity has allowed him to put intense pressure on members on congress. He can threaten to primary any sitting senator or representative that doesn’t support everything he does. These threats are not empty and he has absolutely gotten people voted out of office due to his clout with republican voters. Most Republican members of congress are terrified of opposing him. Since republicans currently hold majority, congress is more or less toothless and completely deferential to Trump right now.
- Two supreme court justice positions became open when Republicans had control of the government, so they have shifted SCOTUS leanings strongly to the right.
Trump has a perfect storm of control over the systems normally in-place to hold him accountable.
Once we have an administration ran by adults in power again, we’re going to need to seriously re-evaluate and update our system of checks and balances, or future administrations will continue to exploit these problems until the country rots and dies.
The problem is, it’s the thing that happens with the current government doing things so their place in power is secured. And the other thing about boiling the frog slowly with very short temperature rises, so it doesn’t notice it’s being boiled until it’s too late.
At some point it will be too late to change as change prevention will be written in the system, if it already isn’t. People like to throw in the word ‘status-quo’ but I don’t understand that term at all.
Chuck Schumer
Stares sternly and considers penning a letter in opposition.
What would you expect the opposition to do?
In a proper political system?
- Inform the electorate about shit the government is doing
- Suing the government in front of an unpolitical, independent court, up to an unpolitical, independent supreme court
- Bargaining with the government on regular laws for whenever the government needs a 2/3 majority (e.g. for constitutional amendments, which should be a regular thing, not a once-in-a-lifetime event)
- Running a shadow cabinet where each shadow minister is completely up-to-date to everything that happens so that in case the opposition wins the next election they can hit the ground running
Just to name a few things.
But since the USA doesn’t have unpolitical, independent courts and not even an unpolitical, independent supreme court, and constitutional amendments are exceedingly rare, the opposition is pretty worthless.
Just for reference: If you take out the zero-day fixes (all amendments that were passed within the first year) and the two amendments that cancel each other out (18 and 21), the USA has had 15 constitutional amendments. France had 15 full constitutional rewrites in the same time.
This was what I meant opposition doing the job.
I think it is very important thing engaging the electorate when they are not in power and when it’s not election season. By both the government and opposition. And more importantly to do that neutral to reach all the electorate not their own voter base. I think that is what is missing form the US and it is increasing the divide between the left and right to the point the key identity (with pride) of each political party is that they aren’t the other one.
The US system is a hot broken mess. It’s 200 years outdated and nobody dared fixing it.
It’s literally a prototype of a democracy that people started to treat like a religion.
The constitutionally mandated two-party-system is perfect at dividing the nation and makes sure that cross-party coalitions aren’t a thing, thus voiding all need for any cooperation.
“The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism.”
From George Washington’s farewell address, 1796.
Basically, he was worried about ‘us vs them’ mentality that the two party system would bring as there was already a divide between the federalists and the democratic-republicans.
Yeah, it was a problem from day 1, but they did jack all to fix it.
Probably because changing a system usually doesn’t benefit those who got into power via the old system.
I am not an expert on the political system. But my knee jerk answer is idk, Oppose? But there is probably a lot I don’t understand of “this is how it’s done and this is how it is” -ism that goes on.
I mean they do, do that. It doesn’t hit the media much, because they like to appease Trump. But they are constantly making every piece of legislation hard to pass.
Arresting BLACK PEOPLE who want to Vote is how you KNOW Republicans are NOT Racist!
-Log Cabin Republicans!
Yes and according to the conservative super majority of the Supreme Court, racism in election polls doesn’t exist anymore apparently.
I’ll never forgive rbg for not stepping down when Obama first got elected
It’s a good lesson. People who reach positions of power are only able to do so because they are motivated purely by their own self-interest. Keeping her position was in her self-interest. Even the people who appear on “your side” are only in that position for themselves. The higher they get the less incentive they have to make performative sacrificies. Which they all are. Always and forever.
It’s only true in this system that rewards the self-serving individual. I don’t believe this is implicit to human nature, but we have to be willing to collectively punish bad actors severely, rather than shrug and look the other way as these people misbehave.
The violent struggle is inevitable at this point, its really now just about how may times you’ll let yourself be punched in the face until you punch back.
That is the system though. The world would be a better place if we had leaders not motivated by their self-interest. But those leaders don’t get into positions of power. So, they don’t functionally exist other than to pat themselves on the back for suffering for their principles in their own minds that effect zero change or progress. I don’t say it to be cynical, either. It’s just reality. There are only a handful of people throughout history who reached high enough levels of power to actual change things for the better that were actually willing to sacrifice themselves for their principles. And most of them suffered for it and the only reward they got was a legacy.
You are not punching anyone in the face. And telling other people they are lazy or bad for not pretending otherwise doesn’t make it anymore true that you are. You’re just someone shouting a lie at a person who is sick of being shouted at and wondering why no one is doing what you want them to do.
You are not punching anyone in the face. And telling other people they are lazy or bad for not pretending otherwise doesn’t make it anymore true that you are. You’re just someone shouting a lie at a person who is sick of being shouted at and wondering why no one is doing what you want them to do.
That’s quite the story you’ve invented for me. I didn’t call anyone lazy or bad, and I’m wholly confused at what lie I’m supposedly shouting here.
I can imagine that you’re frustrated by your own inability to effect the change you would like to see. Totally understandable.
I am no more frustrated with it than I am frustrated with my inability to take flight.
In looking into this, what I am able to find indicates that this is a lawmaker (Rep Justin Pearson) and his brother (KeShaun Pearson) who is not a lawmaker and was there protesting GOP lawmakers splitting the city of Memphis where they both live into three districts, diluting the Black vote after a Supreme Court ruling badly gutting what was left of the Voting Rights Act. It appears that KeShaun was detained. Rep Pearson was not, and I am unclear from the video and article whether state troopers forcibly removed Rep Pearson or if he chose (understandably) to leave in order to watch out for his brother who was being detained.
This is the article on it i was able to find. https://www.actionnews5.com/2026/05/08/video-shows-tense-moment-between-rep-pearson-state-troopers-brother-detained-tenn-capitol/
Just so we’re clear, this is still a bad thing that happened and is happening. Jim Crow is returning before our eyes. I just believe, based on what I’ve been able to find, that this screenshot contains inaccurate specifics of the details.
this is still a bad thing that happened and is happening
Yeah, but being accurate matters
Muddying the waters always helps fascists more than anyone.
Facts still matter.
I kind of wish I never saw whatever DC TV show he was “hawk boy”…
It wasn’t his fault, his writing was super cringey.
But now everytime I see his face, I just think “fucking hawk boy”
Smallville?
Apparently it was Titans.
In Smallville, he was Aquaman.
Oh, shit. I remember now.
I mean adding an S to words still indicates a plural state, right? Because this definitely says Lawmakers, with an S. As in more than one. Multiple. Am I losing my fucking mind? Do I need to go back to first grade and learn basic grammar, again? Because I’m just gonna disengage if everyone’s gonna lie to me every time I turn around.
I’m a little confused by this comment, sorry. By “this,” do you mean the image? It does say lawmakers, plural, and also specifies two. The image seems to be incorrect. I’m not assuming malice, and I believe they were probably posting with bad or incomplete information. Details of situations like this can be unclear as you’re trying to follow them at home. But they said lawmakers, plural, and it is in fact a lawmaker, singular, who was not actually arrested, and his non-lawmaker brother, who was.
If you’re talking about something in the article I shared, could you quote the passage that has you confused?
this screenshot contains inaccurate specifics of the details.
Why would someone do that? On Lemmy. Why?
What the fuck is going on here? It can’t get much more blatantly fascist. I implore anyone who can leave the Untied States to do so
Don’t leave, stay and fight. The US is taking problems that will follow you if you leave.
I am middle aged with a bad back and gout. My ability to fight is pretty limited.
Leaving would just let them consolidate power
I doubt anyone here is doing anything to prevent that now though
Oh dang you’re right no one is doing anything let’s all just give up
That’s the spirit!
Fragile ignorant white people are afraid of losing their privilege. It’s going to require white people to step up and stop voting for fear, for ignorance, for bigots.
The problem is us.
Riots are the language of the unheard. I don’t ever want to hear pissing and moaning from Republicans when there shit hole state burns down
Should have hanged every confederate and this wouldn’t have happened. But America has never had the balls to do good when money can be made and evil can be done instead.
It is very naïve to assume racism only belonged to the Confederacy. Just because black folks were free in the North, doesn’t mean it was all sunshine and roses. This was inevitable from America’s founding as a white nation. It’s a sad, hapless truth; one that, as every society has, will bring us to collapse. So, stock up, play nice with neighbors, and ride out the fall of America.
On the scale of racists, I’ll take the ones that are ashamed of being that way over the loudly and proudly defiant ones.
Were they ashamed when they segregated the black people? Were they ashamed when they economically crippled them at every turn? Were they ashamed when they made them sit in the back of their churches? Were they ashamed when they were forced to go to their own people’s colleges and universities, because they weren’t allowed admittance to the white school? This all happened in the north post Civil War. This was the endgame of America. Always has been and it’s been known since the beginning. It’s time to just sit back and watch the collapse of the empire. Nothing else to do. Racism will never fully be extinguished because it preys on our tribalistic instinct. Hard to overwrite that one.
Racism as a concept was invented in the 1700’s by rich, white Europeans. It has nothing to do with humans existing in tribes and can absolutely be extinguished.
That 1700s example is something hotly debated by historians and anthropologists. So, I’m not going to touch on it. My point was that humans innately need/want a tribe. Some humans now, use race in place of a tribe. Others use nationality. Some use religion. It’s all the same. This was always the endgame. There is no other outcome. You will never be able to move past it. To think so, is naïveté. Because there will always be a group in the shadows waiting to strike and poison the well.
It just doesn’t matter, dude. We as humanity deserve to die regardless. As a species we’re absolutely useless to this Earth. We’re selfish, narcissistic people. We’re animals. We make choices based on how it can help our people first, not others. It has been this way since the start of society.
P.S. I will add that, racism is always discrimination, but discrimination isn’t always racism. As such, it doesn’t matter if it’s called racism, or not. It’s discrimination rooted from a tribalistic us v them ideology.
Bro you’re not teaching anything anyone just being annoying. Yes, Lincoln and the rest of the North was racist, everybody knows that. But they still gave African-Americans the right to vote because they believed in democracy. The confederacy started a war to stop Black people from voting. There was a palpable difference. We don’t need racists to start liking minorities, we need democracy and freedom protected for all. And yes we should have hanged confederate leaders and this country would be decades more advanced right now.
Considering some of Europe started adopting some form of universal healthcare in the 1940s, that’s ~8 decades and counting, just for that one milestone of modern civilization.
We cant even get away from lead waterpipes and asbestos schools.
There are starving children in Africa* with better access to healthcare, clean water, and an education.
Oh, and internet.
* By American definition of “starving”, so like, ~1800kcal per day.
But like, there is starvation in Africa. I am being pedantic, but it’s worth not forgetting about the current Sudan situation.
There’s starvation in America, too.
Maybe the 80s were more prosperous, but that’s what our parents would tell us millenials when we were kids who didn’t finish their dinner. We also sat Indian-style and played Chinese Kickball. It was a different time.
But kids today, we may as well just tell them that there are starving kids in their classroom…because there more than likely are.
It was very nice to give them the right to vote, as long as they stayed far enough away from the whites. I’m just saying, it’s naïve to say that this level of racism was only fostered from the Confederacy. It’s tribalism. The most exceptional part of the human race. It’s what kept us alive long enough to evolve this way. Every single one of us is sucept to it. To think not is folly, friend. You have a level of anger in your heart that is best put aside for a sandwich with a friend. The world has not changed, it has always been this way. How you choose to react is your own. Peace and love to you.
I get your point, but calling them the same is not accurate. The idea of the south was that black people were not people, and should only be counted for property.
You can still be racist and think that black people are people, but there’s levels to it, it’s not an on or off thing.
This said, it’s not representative of the whole south or the whole north, but the variance was absolutely enough to make progress.
I think the fundamental disagreement we have is, you have faith in progress; and I am jaded.
Oh believe me I’m jaded as well. What we have going on right now is the opposite of progress. We’re headed toward fascism on a global scale. We’re already balls deep in the US.
I still think it’s important to call out the positives, even in a flawed setting because that can give a glimmer of hope, and without hope we’d just surrender. Fuck that. I’m too petty for that, and wrong is wrong.
It’s all the same or that’s not good enough or it could have been better shouldn’t get in the way of progress no matter how small. The difference between the north and south in that time may seem small now, but it was a massive difference for those that were affected. It was the catalyst that got us to the point we were at a decade ago (prior to the maga shift) which compared to north or south of the time is a monumental difference. Even a decade ago, we were no where near finished, but it was progress.
What is the difference between enslaving someone from not viewing them as equal and setting their house on fire with them in it, for not viewing them as equal? You bring up recent history saying things were getting better, even ten years ago. I disagree. The thing that brought it back out was electing a black president. And all those with racism in their hearts saw it as the end for them. So, they’re gonna make everyone pay for that. Because America has always been racist. It will never stop until whites in america are the minority.
If you think it was better, you missed the part where we vehemently imposed cruelty on Arabs in the past three decades.
it’s naïve to say that this level of racism was only fostered from the Confederacy
It’s not naive because Northen racism still fought a war to give African-Americans the right to be citizens. It objectively did not rise to the level of taking those voting rights away, which is what OP is about. Those are two distinct levels of racism is what I’m saying.
But you’re rewriting history. They still burned black people inside their homes. They lynched. They segregated. They did all the horrific things. But you want to draw the line and say that they were better because they gave them citizenship? How’d that citizenship work out when trying to get a job?There were plenty of sharecroppers stuck on farms for money they couldn’t spend anywhere else. But hey! At least they could vote! America is a racist country through and through. Stop acting like it’s not, y’all.
If you want to ignore the blatant racism of the America since it’s founding, you can. But don’t act like America has gotten better. It still hates the minority, I.e. not whites.
Idk i wrote several times it’s racist idk how much more i need to break it down for you
I don’t know, I wrote down several times that black people died and you’re dismissive of it, because at least they freed em first. I don’t know how much more I can break it down.
You’re not actually responding with rebuttals, you’re just saying naïvely, “north freed black people. Doesn’t matter how many died from racist attacks and infrastructure. Because they fought to free them.” that’s insane logic. The north made few steps to prevent discrimination against blacks, even preventing them from voting in some areas. The rest of the country did too, I wonder why? Maybe it’s because america is a country founded on racism. Or more accurately discrimination of the unseemly. The unwanted. The outcasts of society. It was blacks, Jews, Irish, Italians, Polish, Arabians, southeast Asians, Indians, American Indians. The list goes on.
We will always have racism and I wish I had your optimism. It’s admirable. But I have seen far too much of the horrors of the world up close, to ever believe humanity will get better. I’m sorry you weren’t able to convince me, and I you. I hope you are able to see the future you yearn for.
racism was thier SOLE mission, beliefs, of course it was also in the north. but it fuel thier economy in thier south through segregaiton and slavery. the problem was not ELIMINATING the remaining confederacy strongholds.
*Their.
Segregation was common across across the whole country. This whole country has always been racist. My point was this wasn’t a north south issue. It is the heart of America. What does it matter if we give people freedom and still starve them? What good is freedom if you have no home? What good is freedom if you’re still burning them? This is wasn’t progress in the north, it was trying to feign righteousness. America, all of it, is a racist country.
That and “Operation Paperclip” (secret U.S. program that recruited over 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians from Nazi Germany after World War II to leverage their expertise for American military and technological advancements) I think are significant parts of what led us here. Those 1,600 people 100% had a reputation that made it easy for their children to attain powerful positions in politics or the law.
The fact governments (not just the US) happily opened its arms to Nazis just because they had talent, have solidified to me that WWII was not fought to protect “noble, human ideals,” like being anti-eugenicist or stopping the Holocaust because people genuinely cared about the Jews (just like nobody has done the same for the genocides that have happened after the Holocaust), but just money and power. The USA only joined WWII because they didn’t want the Nazis to “win the race.” It’s so gross the more you repeat it; feels like a race among a bunch of eugenicists, all of them. You then hear about that Jeffrey Epstein’s Zorro “Baby” Ranch where they planned to breed people like stock, to create a “super race.” The fact he easily and likely talked to most of our world leaders while doing that, the fact he was allowed for so long, not really stopped, and that he is easily not just the only one in this planet doing that right now either, he probably got replaced with someone more secretive, more “professional,” it just gets worse. We are cattle to the elite, they are probably doing this economic shock to “cull the weak” because I remember how vivid the discussion about “overpopulation” was during the early 2000s. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of our leaders are that goddamn stupid to believe we Humanity needs wars to keep overpopulation in check, to “evolve” and shit like that. Those are the people we should be putting in jail where they should make their own food, because I don’t want to fund their air.
I think most, if not all the leaders around the world are so corrupted with power they only care about keeping it. They are already beyond discussing racism, homophobia or xenophobia; they are tools to them, but not interests. Especially when you read that a lot of these people do hard drugs, are cucks who fuck eachothers’ wives, and of course, are pedophiles who have tried the most disgusting shit you can imagine because they are already bored of trying everything they can with their money. Eating a world-famous chef’s 5,000$ meal is not a mind-blowing experience to them anymore because they do it everyday. Fucking Victoria Secret models they paid a lot too, etc. They are literally people who make decisions that get thousands of people killed every day, they cannot be blind, they are just incredibly apathetic, psychopathic, it’s so hard to imagine for the average person.
People have to remember that all governments have close relationships with the countries’ mafias (I am a Mexican, and I am sure it’s super easy for you to imagine my government is riddled with mafiosos, but so is yours, no matter where are you from, even Japan is known for working close with the Yakuza. You really think the USA, Russia, China, any European country or place in the world doesn’t? You really think you are the only saints?). It’s a market they know they must control, they cannot erase it, they cannot erase ALL drugs off the world. Mafias are known for doing the worst things you can imagine: burning people; beheading a father or child in front of the other; rape or kidnap your son or daughter who has a disability like down syndrome just to make you do what they want you to do or else they torture, rape or kill them; threaten your family like it’s nothing, with a smile on their face, just to control you; the boss will take your wife if he wants to, and if you dare say anything, they will probably pay you a visit and cut off a toe or pull out a tooth to make you understand… Like, the government deals with that underworld everyday. They themselves play like that and you know that already, WikiLeaks proved a lot of that, about how Governments torture, commit war crimes, have ties with mafias, and shit never changes, it keeps repeating, it’s crazy how people shell themselves from all this and still see things with any bit of pink tones in it… The military is known for raping and doing incredible amounts of violence. They have to see the videos of hostages being mauled and killed, like ISIS’, or what is going on in Gaza. All these people abuse drugs, they are incredibly emotional, irrational, immature, violent, cynical, evil; they have it so easy to threaten your family and you cannot do anything about it because they can censor you, they own the media, social medias, newspapers, TV news channels, everything. They kill people everyday without getting their hands dirty. And people still think these things only happened before cameras were invented, or are super rare, but no, they are literally what “The Game” is.
The only people that can be in positions of power right now are the most psychopathic. It is not hard for them to act. If you think acting is a skill you can only see in movies and TV shows, and cannot be seen anywhere else, you are making a massive mistake. It is a talent anyone can practice and develop, for god’s sake, Hitler was famous for doing that, and it paid off, it made everything he said “look or feel more real to the Germans” and whatnot. To think the elite are not surrounded by psychologists, economists, scientists, heavily-connected people filled with rumors, the assholes who don’t give a fuck and will ask them to do something illegal like it’s a normal conversation because they have the money to buy entire cities, let alone judges/governors they themselves mega-donated to or whatever… It’s such a different world, I don’t think they see wars or everyday topics of discussion the same way we do.
We are all being played, distracted with bullshit. We must keep using every opportunity of discussion, argument, debate or insulting we see online to turn it about Class Warfare. Trump said something insanely racist about Obama? Don’t care, eat the rich, talk about how the rich are keeping you poor and distracted. Elon Musk shat himself? Don’t care. Eat the rich. Trump threatened with nuking an entire country, or half of the world? Don’t care. Eat the rich. What is he gonna do? Bomb us all until there is no Working Class left? Good luck. It’s the biggest flaws of nukes; the survivors will not accept whoever dropped it anymore. You won’t be able to force Humanity to do whatever you want by killing 50% of it, 80% of it, or even 100% of it which at that point is over. People will fucking hate you and they will remove you and replace you with someone who is the absolute opposite… and well, for so long they managed to lie to people and convince them that “communism/socialism means being dirty poor and a lazy fuck who doesn’t want to work and hates humanity”, but they are doing an amazing job at showing people the truth, that capitalism is actually that, the lazy fucks are the elite who don’t really know Algebra or Chemistry, they don’t write a single line of code or do absolutely anything meaningful for the product, they are just dudes with a lot of money who attracted talented artists because artists know they need the funding of someone big to be able to express themselves without limits. But what if we don’t rely on a few lazy fucks anymore, and instead rely on everyone as a whole? I don’t care if “technology” slows down a little, we need it to slow down. AI is replacing us all, it needs regulation or millions will keep starving to death or committing suicide. Being social, or working as a community, as the words communism and socialism imply, doesn’t mean being a lazy fuck or being broke, it’s the opposite, you work for the community, and community does the same. It won’t be perfect, human nature is what sucks the most, narcissism, lazy, jerks, jealously, traumas will still exist, that creates racism or discrimination in general. But fuck capitalism already, it only empowered these elite assholes so easily. We need to keep educating everyone as much as we can, that’s our biggest jab, and it has been working, to be honest. Compared to what the Internet used to think or be 20 years ago, we are so different now. It’s just that the assholes are not leaving quietly, that’s it. They are being super loud and hyping up the children to cheer them on, but just wait until those children grow up, man.
They will all realize some baby boomers had better lives than they had. 7+ children in average, a home at 19 years old, or at least a happy family of four without a college degree. The average age the current American is getting their first home at is 52 years old, not 19 anymore. The fertility rate used to be a solid constant 6.0+ for centuries before Reagan’s Trickle Down Economics, today, it’s a 1.5, which means, the amount of virgins, incels, single people, or couples not having children because it’s not feasible, are increasingly high. Sexual frustration can be a bitch. It’s so easy to squeeze it and channel it into hatred toward the elite. They are the ones who have all your money, afterall. They are the ones gatekeeping your future, your potential family, your bridge to the future like children, they are gatekeeping pussy for those who still talk like teenagers, man, fr, nocap, you are a virgin because you still think the elite deserve to live. You will never have even a quarter of what the average baby boomer had at your age because you still think the elite deserve to live. You cannot afford games at their full price, you have to wait for steam sales. You cry about RAM prices, housing or healthcare costs. Yet they’ll clap the 6 new yatches of Gabe Newell or whatever billionaire they cocksuck with their 6 teeth.
People still think the USA should be the World Police/Only Empire, when it shouldn’t.
I think you are right about WWII not being fought for higher ideals. That is the propaganda we got later on. Also, the connection between Nazism and the US is way stronger than you allude to. Ford and other industrialists helped bankroll the Nazi empire. Nazism was very popular in the US back then.
The US were not the good guys by any means. Those same wealthy industrialists lobbied against taking in the Jews when Hitler decided to expel them. They also helped reinforce anti-Jewish sentiment and made sure no one else would take the Jews in.
US companies like IBM gave material support to the Nazi as well. They developed the census system that was used to tattoo Jewish prisoners and then later helped out with the logistical efforts to make sure the optimal amount of Jews could be executed without backing up the trains.
As many people here on Lemmy are found of pointing out it was really Russia that did the heavy lifting of defeating the Nazi. The US showed up to take credit for solving the problem they helped create.
it is still an option
But Obama’s tan suit.
You guys need to switch to preferential voting and an independent election authority like here in Australia.
Our local racists specifically want to get rid of preferential voting specifically to gain power
What people aren’t realizing is that MAGA may well have screwed themselves worse, especially in such a hostile political environment as this one.
Before all this redistricting, it was going to be a bloodbath, not just because EVERY Dems is going to vote against MAGA, but a lot of Republicans are as well. Even more aren’t going to vote at all.
None of that has changed. In fact, the dishonest gerrymandering is going to make many people even angrier and more determined. They can gerrymander all they want, but the votes don’t go away.
Take Tennessee, for example, in which they eliminated the single Democratic district - but they didn’t get rid of the votes. They just spread them across 3 other strong Republican districts, weakening them badly. In a normal year, it might not be anything to worry about, but in a year in which the waters are flowing hard AGAINST the Traitors, it could easily lead to 3 districts going Blue, instead of just one.
Always remember this one important axiom of MAGA: they are profoundly ignorant, and virtuosically incompetent. They fuck up literally everything they contact, and they will fuck this up, too. The real problem is that we have to have leaders that will pounce on those inevitable mistakes, and exploit the shit out of them. We can’t be polite, and say “Oh, MAGA stumbled, let’s help them back up,” we have to kick them when they are down, then drop a giant rock on their head.
I really hope you are right.
Because the alternative seems not just dark but pitch black
MAGAs are frequently wrong, but NEVER in doubt. They are BLUFFING. They are ALWAYS bluffing.
You are under no obligation to believe anything they say. In fact, if you are a patriotic American citizen, you have an obligation to ignore everything they say, for many reasons:
- They lie about everything
- They are mind-bogglingly stupid
- They NEVER know what they are talking about.
- They get ALL their information from their own Conservative Propaganda Machine, i.e: they sniff their own farts.
- They don’t know anything about anything, and they get their advice and strategies from the same people. All they care about, and know about, is money, literally nothing else.
- They have all the confidence of a guy declaring their perfect health, as a piano is literally dropping out of the sky above them.
- They are always bluffing, count on it.
Why would you believe anything that these proven morons say? They’re MORONS, do you really think they can do anything right? Their best strategy is to try to scare you into surrendering, and all you have to do is ignore them.
They may enjoy sniffing their own farts, but we don’t have to.
I mean
I am with you, absolutly
But are the majority of the american people?
The Citizens have been conditioned to react in certain ways. We have to alter that conditioning, level up our Critical Thinking Skills, and start demanding that the government and the money supply serve the people, and not the wealthy.
Pitch white?
They can gerrymander all they want, but the votes don’t go away.
Are you sure you know how gerrymandering works?
Are you sure you know? Gerrymandering backfires when taken too far.
Gerrymandering dilutes both sides’ votes by making smaller majorities and larger minorities to favor one side.
well, no. “well done” gerrymandering dilutes only one side’s votes, that is why republicans love it.
notice the disproportionate results in top right corner. the votes literally went away…
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/DifferingApportionment.svg
But it doesn’t weaken only one side. They may have gotten rid of ONE Democratic district, but they severely WEAKENED THREE Republican districts. That’s the kind of thing that can backfire badly in a bloodbath election.
I know red politicians in Texas are sweating because of their gerrymander. They used 2024 voting data including the insane upswing of Latinos who voted for him for whatever reason… Now new polling shows those aren’t guaranteed votes anymore, they might even vote blue.
Always remember this axiom about MAGA: They are profoundly ignorant, virtuosically incompetent, and fuck up EVERYTHING they touch. This will be no exception.
Never thought of that, lets hope you are right.
How is only one side diluted here? Out of five districts, there are two districts with a single yellow vote (diluted to half as much as proportional), and three with four blue votes (also diluted to 2/3 as much as proportional).
The assumption is that some purple voters will turn blue.
That’s irrelevant to the context here.
I was kinda thinking about the point you made about the gerrymandering might bite them in the ass. Texas announced they were doing it and I thought the districts were already somewhat gerrymandered. How far can you min/max that setup before your repub+ districts are so razor thin that you lose more than you gain in a high turnout vote? I’m sure someone smart did math but if it’s maga math then I expect it to be wrong.
There is another nuance to midterm redistricting that doesn’t get considered: Time.
Districts are normally redrawn following the Census, which is done every 10 years, based on those current demographics. As the decade goes on, those demographics change, as new neighborhoods are built, populations shift, etc. Also, the people themselves change. A person who answers the census at 20, is a very different person than who answers the Census at 30.
So when they redraw the districts deep into the decade, they are doing it based on old, inaccurate data, and they are not going to get the precise response they are expecting. Add to that, the variable that special election results show that Trump is underwater far worse than polls are showing, badly losing elections in districts that had been strong MAGA and Trump supporters in the past.
These districts are being redrawn based on old data, and while it definitely skews things in their favor, it isn’t the slam dunk they think it is, for multiple reasons. Mostly, MAGA’s confidence that this situation saves the House and Senate for them is all show. Don’t let them get you down. All it means is that they are going to cry and scream even louder when they lose.
And in 2031, when they redraw the districts following the 2030 census, Blue states should do everything they can do eliminate as many Red districts as possible. Fuck those pedophile traitors.
The biggest issue America faces right now is the sheer number of people who still think rules, laws, and logic apply (they barely did in the first place but it’s fully gone now). This administration, Israel, all the pedos, and all the oligarchs will not stop just because people vote against them. You cannot beat authoritarians with the system, you cannot beat them with laws, you cannot beat them with the truth, literally the only thing that can work against authoritarians is extreme violence against them.
We may get to that point, but we still have to work our way through all of our legal, Constitutional steps first. If we get to the point that they have thwarted every legal means, then it will be time to move to violence.
“Those who make peaceful change impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.” -JFK
Has there been any case in history where a fascist dictatorship ended by voting them out? People need to accept the reality that a fascist takeover is happening
It just happened in Hungary after 16 years of Orban. The Soviet Union countries all fell with a minimum of violence. There weren’t official votes, but the people made their choices very clear, and most countries accepted it, even Russia. Those that didn’t, like Ceaucescu in Romania, met a bad end.
Sometimes a dictator realizes that he doesn’t have a choice, and makes the smart decision. Other times their ego does the thinking, and it doesn’t go so well. Guess which one Trump and the rest of his psycho henchmen will choose?Hint: they aren’t known for SMART decisions.
Whoa, be careful, with quotes like that you might be considered a domestic terrorist /s
The violence comes when it is needed most.
In retrospect it will have been tardy.
If any of their gerrymandering schemes fail because of what you describe, the Republicans will claim that Dems must have cheated, and refuse to accept it. Like this time, I think actually refuse to honor the results.
They know that they simply cannot lose power, and I believe we are going to see as-yet unseen levels of fuckery to that end.
Oh, absolutely, “They Cheated” is their standard response to any loss. The problem is that Dems then take that claim seriously, and want to have a discussion and investigation about it, giving it credibility, instead of just saying “Go fuck yourselves.”
Let them scream, who cares? If we win the House, then we control it whether they like it or not. Any MAGA politician who refuses to allow new Dem Reps enter the Capitol should be immediately arrested, and if they resist, treat them the way they like to treat prisoners.
If they won’t turn it over, we will take it. Violence is entirely up to them.
Nah, the “both sides” crowd will blow it again
If they do, it’s YOUR fault. They are politicians, so they are inherently lazy and greedy, and if you give send them the message that you expect them to do nothing, and you will accept it, that’s exactly what they will do, and go back to their insider trading.
Instead, we should all be sending the constant message that we expect them to finally do their fucking jobs, or else. Or else we will primary them, and if they still won’t work for us, we will investigate them, and throw them in the dungeon with the MAGA traitors. If you aren’t with us, you’re against us, and that goes for voters and politicians.
So knock it off with letting them off the hook. We should be threatening them with their jobs, and making the Dems fear us as much as the MAGAs.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that. The fact of the matter is that when the polls open these people will walk in and vote like they always have.
That statement is proven wrong by the dozens of special elections that have shown a serious downturn in MAGA voter participation.
Stop declaring the race over, and stop discouraging Democrats from voting, unless you’re a MAGA Traitor.
I legitimately don’t give a shit anymore. After watching over 10 years of Trump taking a shit on top of the country and all the working class people cheering for him, across all forms of media I have finally given up. I’ll still bitch about how moronic and self-serving this MAGA cult is, I’ll still vote in every election against them, but I cannot in good conscience try and continue with the platitudes and positive outlook on the future. In fact a part of me hopes the Democrats lose again and give the GOP even greater control - it seems that’s where everything’s going anyways. Besides, I think many of us know what happens the moment Democrats take majority control of the House and Senate.
Actual oversight comes into play, real investigations begin, and this house of cards filled with fraud and scams propping up what’s left of the economy collapses entirely. Who gets the blame? It’s not the Republicans and conservatives, they will never accept the tiniest shred of responsibility for any of this. No they’ll do the same shit they did to Obama after the 2008 election when he inherited the last generation’s conservative scam economy. Blame democrats and progressives and leftists for all their problems. It’ll work, because the idiot demographic in this country with the collective attention span of a betta fish enjoys an undefeatable majority and grows all the time, and they’ll win even more strongly in the following election. So I’m done.
Let the fucking moron self-righteous MAGAt assholes control everything and burn it all down, let them die because their local hospitals closed due to lack of Medicaid funding, their children to Measles and their infants to Vitamin K deficiencies because they’re all so willfully ignorant they think basic medicine is the devil. Let their communities become filled with the products of a dysfunctional criminal justice and rehabilitation system. Let them go homeless and destitute because AI took their jobs, and all the welfare programs that could’ve helped keep them on their feet were destroyed to enable Elon Musk to become the world’s first trillionaire. I say all of that in the hopes that with the right wing in clear, uncontestable control of the entire country, maybe they’ll finally be unable to weasel out of some form of responsibility for their many crimes against humanity and against the working class people of this country and the world. However the truth is, I think that even if every progressive politician in America disappeared tomorrow, in 10 years’ time they’d still be blamed for 100% of issues in society.
I understand how black representation, and safe districts, makes incumbents in those districts angry when taken away. Broader power though comes from majority, and past GOP gerrymandering has indeed focused on making 99% dem/black districts so as to make more 55% GOP districts. This is actually the path to both corrupt fascist power monopoly, and increased divisiveness with low voter turnout. Generally, black representation is a distraction for serving other agenda. Obama won due to zionist supremacist establishment approval. Tim Scott is GOP insider with GOP/Zionist first agenda that ignores black issues.
The point is that black representation doesn’t change anything. Like Chuck Schumer, their job is to gaslight the blacks into supporting Israel.
Mixed districts does promise less divisiveness. GOP candidates can’t be all in on KKK/Palantir genocide of all undesirables, or ICE siege of Memphis, when they need Memphis voters too.
Memphis voter turnout can now make a huge difference in Tenessee congressional representation, and Israel/DNC first cooption less important than Tenessee/Memphis relevant issues/harmony.
Obama didn’t deal with Bush, and Biden didn’t deal with Trump. There are no consequences for anything Republicans do, so here we are.
Obama didn’t deal with Bush
I think this is SO important, and people never talk about it. The last chance we had to prevent trump was if obama prosecuted the open theft, corruption, torture and war crimes of the bush era. By biden it was too late, the rich already knew they could get away with it.
As soon as obama gave his “I’m looking forward, not backward” explanation for refusing to enforce the rule of law, he proved that he was yet another useless politician with no will to fix the problems facing the US.
Bush and obama paved the way for the current regime, and people never give obama his fair share of the blame.
i mean nixon got a fucking pardon too
as did all of the confederates
the US government has been excusing blatant crime for “harmony” since basically forever
You’re giving Obama credit for a looooot of power that he didn’t have.
You act as if the republicans were just weak, underfunded pushovers. That clearly isn’t the case.
Dems had a supermajority. They enjoyed widespread public support. Sarah palin made the loony right look pathetic. Obama was never afraid to overuse executive orders either - dems had a lot of levers to pull and a lot of leverage to pull them.
If they’d investigated the rampant illegality, that would’ve been very hard for a post-loss republican party engaged in in-fighting to defend against. A new generation of republican hopefuls would’ve been tempted to get air time by twisting the knife in the old losers.
Remember the hype around the special master under biden? Imagine that, aided by obama’s charisma, with a super majority and before republicans completely corrupted the supreme court. They had a mandate and a lot of power.
They had a supermajority for four months. They just barely managed to get the ACA passed, which was a monumental effort in and of itself. They were more interested in helping American citizens than trying to damage their political opponents, which is a republican ideal, and I understand. We actually had hope back then that things were going to get better, but we were very naive. The racists got immeasurably pissed off and worse, scared. So they accelerated their long-laid plans.
Democrats can certainly be blamed for their actions, and I’d be the first to do so if I thought it prudent. But when the republicans are literally actively tearing down the country, I think there are better things to focus on than the very brief period 16 years ago when Democrats last had a modicum of power.
Mitch mcconnell was a thorn on obama’s side most of his 2nd term, he basically got lameducked by him.
Well, you’ve figured out half the game atleast. None of them “deal” with any of them. They all committed war crimes. They all violated the constitution in one way or the other. They all let their predecessor off the hook.
There are no consequences for any politician, regardless of their faux political team.
that to, i found it odd they dint repeal the last GOP measure of enacting anti-immigration, patrioct act plans immediately, they know thier donors wanted it in place, or they slow-walked those bills to death.
Obama and other dem leadership keep saying we need a strong gop party. Which is surprising considering how little they’ve ever cared about fighting against the GOP. Unless just want them strong to make it easier to fundraise
and then you realize, they are the same PARTY, DINOS and GOP are pretty toe-ing each others line in some respect or another, the only difference is they pretend they are not by having culture war issues. the biggest example is the tax cuts, it was barely if any was reversed at all.
more obvious now that the DNC isnt going to released the result of eleciton autopsy.
Ever since the nazi learned to boil the frog, they have kept those burners running.
Don’t worry white Americans. You did nothing because this did not affect you yet. Everything is fine, and there is a new show on Apple TV.
Omfg can we talk about how news feeds jam “news” about new shows. I’ve never cared about a tv show on netcock in my life but google thinks it needs to be front page news for me.
Google is an ad and surveillance platform
Billionaire owned media has an imperative to keep everyone distracted with the circuses.
thats why all the sports, met-gala, and copaganda.
oh yea and remember that “citadel” movie, it was designed to lower the searches for the citadel investigation into securties. the MET-GALA was another obvious distraction as well, as was last years.
Uhhh I don’t think more racism helps stop racism.
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and all im hearing is *crickets" offline…
Mainstream media is owned and controlled by the ruling class, so yeah, only independent media will report such things
As it becomes more difficult to merely live, it becomes easier to risk it all. We are witnessing the origin story of the next great revolutionary.
That’s the kind of thing I hear from protest non-voters all the time.
Worked out REALLY well for Hong Kong, let me tell you.
The difference is the Hong Kong citizens weren’t installed in all levels of local, state, and federal position within the government.
The amount of buildings getting destroyed and groups popping up all over America from California to New York will be way too big of a theatre for a federal government as deeply incompetent and corrupt as this one is, from stopping them in any meaningful way.
Hong Kong resisted an outside military with the forces and wealth of an invading army.
Yours is a false dichotomy.
I think you meant false equivalence.
A false dichotomy presents two options as if they are the only choices available when in reality there are other options.
A false equivalence draws a comparison between two things that are actually disparate.
I’m neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you or the person you replied to. Just letting you know the correct term for what you described.
THAT DINT seem like the case for HK, they were most definitely taken over pretty quick, and without much resistance. thier govt was mostly appointed by ccp approved in the first place.
“so here’s the non sequiturs I feel like talking about…”
