• Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip
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      Still crossing my fingers that Terminators are going to emerge from ball lightening and destroy the data centers before offing themselves.

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      Yeah dude, the country brutalized by economic sanctions with its currency in free-fall can afford better PR than the richest country on Earth. 🤡

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      Tbf Iran recently got out of being colonized, and had US government sabotaging its stability for decades as well as directly bombing it at some points.

      US is geographically in a safe zone nobody can effect and was literally richest country on earth until recently.

      If government of these two are at the same level then I still get pissed at US more.

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      They’re not as bad as the US, nor Israel.

      Iran isn’t doing any genocides, while Israel is doing at least two with bipartisan support, aid and weapons from the US.

      Iran hasn’t invaded anyone in the modern era, despite having the 13th most powerful military in the world. The US has invaded Venezuela and Iran just this year and threatened to invade Greenland and Cuba.

      Iran has no nukes, the US has tens of thousands is the only nation to ever use them. And they did it twice. On civillians. For no good reason.

      Did you know some in the US argued for the nukes to be used on a military target but it was rejected because it wouldn’t be “impressive” enough? Did you know that Oppenheimer actually pushed for the nukes to be used? Check the link I shared to learn more.

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        Your giving them too much credit. Iran kills their own people in mass. Just because they want actual democracy and a non oppressive regime. They fund terror groups around the world. People seem to forgot about 9/11 now and how they are helping Russians with their drones to invade Ukraine. They are evil as they can be.

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          You know who funds terrorism even more? The United States does - the Mujahideen, the Contras, Salvadoran death squads, Syrian jihadists, Mexican cartels, I could go on and on - and the CIA have conducted countless terror operations across the globe for decades, such as Operation Mongoose.

          9/11 was nothing to do with Iran. 9/11 was done by Al Qaeda, a Sunni group supported by Saudi Arabia. Iran is a Shia majority country. There is absolutely no evidence that Iran had any involvement whatsoever with 9/11. In fact, the Ayatollah that Trump just assassinated, Ali Khamenei, and the President of Iran, Mohammad Khatami both condemned and denounced the attacks.

          You know, the Russian invasion of Ukraine reminds me of something - the US invasion of Iran.

          You know who executes innocent people in the streets? The United States. Remember ICE?

          Iran has a terribly oppressive regime. It comes NOWHERE CLOSE to the evils perpetuated by the United States or Israel. It’s not even in the same ballpark.

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          I haven’t forgotten about 9/11.

          Which country funded 9/11 and provided support/logistics and passports to the hijackers (our friend’s name starts with an “S”

          You get one chance to answer correctly.

          Also, in so doing you also need to remind everyone here which country had zero involvement in 9/11.

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          I don’t know that they’re as evil as can be but certainly not anywhere near neutral or good.

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            All states are bad, but none of them are as irredeemably evil as the United States of America. It isn’t even close. That’s my whole point.

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        Iran just arms and controls groups that commit genocide, Hezbollah, the Houthis, the PMF. Totally makes them innocent am I right? Your entire post is half truths and lies

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          My entire comment is 100% truth, 0% lies. None of the groups you mentioned have committed genocide, I even googled it and I couldn’t even find anyone but you who even claimed it. Are you just making shit up? I can cite every single one of my claims, can you cite any of yours?

          The PMF was a group formed to fight ISIS, for fuck sake. Hezbollah and the Houthis fight Israel, which is conducting a genocide. One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. I won’t defend all their actions, but at least someone is standing up to Amerisrael.

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    more likely to hurt western oligarchs pocket books. Iran might be thinking about destabilizing the market bubble with force

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        Usually yes, but have you seen how smart Iran is with their propaganda? The know we all (Middle East, Europe, Africa and the Americas) hate the politicians and oligarchs of the US. And they use this weapon quite successfully. CIA shitting their pants right now.

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          Iran democratically elected a socialist leader, Mohammad Mosaddegh, in 1952. The US (and UK) didn’t like that, so they ushered a coup and installed the Shah, a brutal dictator, in 1953. Then in 1979, Iranians had enough of his bullshit and overthrew the government with the Islamic Revolution, voting in Ruhollah Khomeini as the new Ayatollah of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

          Have we ever once considered that the reason why certain sovereign nations in the world behave the way they do was because sometime in the 20th century, the US interrupted their progress towards socialism. See also Latin and South America.

          Maybe the US should just stop interfering with other countries and let the people decide what’s best.

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            voting in Ruhollah Khomeini as the new Ayatollah of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

            How free and fair was that vote?

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              America makes money when they destabilize sovereign nations and install their puppets to say “yes” whenever American corporations come to extract (read: steal) their resources.

              America does NOT make money when socialist states like Iran and Cuba nationalize their oil industry such that economic commerce can only happen through the government and its people.

              This is why America gets involved internationally: it’s to fuel their corporate greed and endlessly subjagate the Global South all for the benefit of the Imperial Core.

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          The reason Iran has a dictatorship is because America overthrew a democratically elected leader in Iran and installed and a brutal dictator Shah in his place.

          Still Iran has never initiated a war.

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            it was of the insistence of uk, THE SHAH WAS installed, which led tot he Islamic revolution, REAGAN told iran to keep holding the hostages there til he got elected.

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              I’m guessing this is a reference to unexploded ordnance in Cambodia, which has killed 20,000 and caused 45,000 amputations since the war ended in 1979.

              That war ended 50 years ago, and there is still 700 square miles of land contaminated by unexploded bombs.

              At least one child will lose their hand to a US bomb this month in Cambodia, you can bet on it. And next month too.

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        Not really. USA actually had a pretty good reputation after WW2 and before wars in ME. For quite some time, US actually looked like a good country.

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          They had a pretty good reputation up until 1953 when they started meddling with Korea. ever since they have stuck their nose in other peoples business. say Vietnam, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya etc. And if you think well those were all countries that were failing so America tried to help them but they wouldn’t accept the help or something to that extent - congratulations, you are a sucker for decades long American propaganda.

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          It looked like a good country but has been doing the same thing. CIA propaganda isn’t working anymore like it used to.

          USA has been at war 240 out of 250 years of its existence.

          Such good guys they are

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          USA has killed way more than any other nation since WWII which they had a hand in causing. Trust me, USA has a horrible reputation as the number one human rights abuser ever.

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            I dunno, there’s been some pretty fucking bad genocides about the place over the years, as well as shit like Stalin and Mao.

            When it comes to killing other countries people, they might be.

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              You have got to be kidding me, or perhaps you are just ignorant to what the US has done.

              Let’s just start with economic sanctions. It is estimated that US sanctions have lead to the death of approximately 500,000 lives a year for the last 50 years. That is 25 million people just because we don’t like other countries policies.

              Speaking of Genocide the US has an ongoing genocide and has participated is some of the worst genocides in history. Take WWII. The Nazi looked up to the US and Hitler modeled his destruction of Jews on the Native American Genocide

              Wealthy US industrialists like Ford bankrolled the Nazi Empire. When Hitler tried to expel the Jews these same wealthy Americans lobbied against taking them in and stroked anti-Jewish sentiment throughout the world to make sure no one would take them in.

              This lead to the final solution where American companies like IBM developed a census system (those numbers tattooed on the Jews arms) and helped figure out the logistics of sending the Jews to their death so the trains would not backup into the ghettos.

              Besides the ongoing genocide of Native Americans with US Indian boarding schools open to this day, we also have the War on Drugs which is yet another hamfisted genocide against minorities by the white nationalists.

              Millions of families have been destroyed and the US accounts for 20% of the world’s prison population but only 5% of the actual world population. These along with gun violence having killed a million people in the last twenty years paints a very dark picture of the US.

              Yes, the US also exceed at killing others countries citizens as well. The US is responsible for countless suffering being the number one producer of arms in the world. We are responsible for the two greatest murders of civilian life in a single day with the fire bombings of Tokyo and the dropping of the atomic bombs.

              US technology is also particularly destructive with things like poisoning every human being alive with forever chemicals and plastics. While you can definitely say the countries that used this technology are also culpable, there is no denying the US invented and proliferated it.

              Take lead poisoning from fuel for instance. It was estimate that even to this day 5 million people die every year due to lung damage. Added all up it is in the hundreds of millions dead. Of course the greatest loss of life (billions) will happen with global warming something the US petro scientist knew about in the 1950s.

              Back to war mongering the US has toppled around 70 countries and has been directly responsible for the killing of tens of millions of civilians through these terrorist acts. Just their campaign against communism killed millions of leftist

              I am found of saying it would take more than my lifetime just to detail all the atrocities and people destroyed by the US.

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    Didn’t they also attack Amazon warehouses? Going after Ellison and Bezos, Trumps real allies.