• applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 days ago

    hey dont leave millennials out of this, we hate capitalism too. i bet genx does too if anyone would remember to ask them.

    • Gormadt@slrpnk.netOP
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      I’m a millennial as well and honestly not enough of us hate capitalism lol

      And from the Gen Xers I’ve met, as long as you don’t say “This is because of capitalism” then they be right there with you hating it.

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        Makes me so mad how many people in general will agree on the world’s issues right up to the point I use the word “capitalism”. Like, I know it sounds stupid, but the clue is literally in the name. What is taking you all so long?

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          For GenX much more than later generations, they were exposed to propaganda as children saying that the main alternative to capitalism was tankies. So if you criticize capitalism, then you must support Stalin.

          • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            It still seems to be a thing, that the only possible communism is post Stalin USSR (or 21st century China).

            Not discussed often is the degree to which western industrialist interests aggressively acted to sabotage efforts for societies to form an egalitarian socialist democracy. Both the British empire and the US empire are guilty of this, often to the point of brutally overthrowing such governments in favor of puppet dictatorships.

            So one criticism of communism might be that they are susceptible to intervention by larger bullyish states, but that’s true of any society, regardless of how it’s organized.

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            Or because school was actually well taught, back in the day, and Gen X learned that prior to capitalism there were other economic systems, like feudalism / manorialism, that were even worse than capitalism.

            Capitalism may be bad, but it’s not the origin of all those terrible things. If anything, it took baby steps towards addressing some of them.

            People who say “that isn’t because of capitalism” aren’t necessarily defending capitalism. They’re simply annoyed by the less well educated who want to believe that everything bad is because of capitalism.

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        Early millennial. I have a friend from high school who hates communism. If you describe all the problems he will agree with you. Rich people, big business corrupt politicians all the way up to the point of saying capitalism is the problem. Suddenly its poor people and immigrants, like how somehow the very small number of rich assholes exploiting everyone isnt the problem but other people who are being exploited worse are. I have tried so hard to get through, but he just can’t bridge that gap.

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          if poor people are a problem and rich people are a problem, maybe a robin hood type situation would help

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          Capitalism is the problem, but communism isn’t the answer. As we’ve seen from some very comprehensive examples.

          Need to do like the successful Europeans and use socialism to beat capitalism into submission.

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      Boomers only love it because they experience the most socialized version of it and were told their whole life, “This is capitalism”. Then, they were slowly propagized to believe that the socialized parts of capitalism they experienced were the cause of all the bad things that happened, even though that was the fault of the underlying capitalism. It’s honestly embarrassing for them, because most of their parents and grandparents would have called themselves socialists, anarchists, union members, and communists.

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      3 days ago

      I feel many of my millennial friends have been more or less. “co-opted” by capitalism through good paying jobs. I don’t really blame them. Life is still not too bad in my country and change is scary and painful.

      • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
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        Not all of us. We just got old and all our rage didn’t change shit. I’m sorry. Some of us are still here and trying 🤗.

        But for real; I wish you didn’t have to inherit this.