“But I think one of the issues here is that if you’re going to opine on matters of theology, you’ve got to be careful. You’ve got to make sure it’s anchored in the truth, and that’s one of the things that I try to do, and it’s certainly something I would expect from the clergy, whether they’re Catholic or Protestant,” he added.
The pope and Donald Trump have exchanged barbs over the past several days, with the pope denouncing the war in Iran and Trump responding by saying Leo was “WEAK on crime” and “terrible for Foreign Policy.”
Is this Onion? Why shouldn’t pope talk about theology? I thought it is like his area of expertise?
So says the imbecile who quoted a Pulp Fiction as a bible verse, during a sermon that he gave, for which he has no skills or qualifications.
vance would know, he reaped the last pope.
I don’t know about this Pope guy, but I think I know a thing or two about the word of God.
I wasn’t aware the Pope was a law enforcement official, or a foreign policy official. Gosh, where would we be without these little gems Trump keeps dropping?
Think of all the leaders who told the Pope to fuck off in history. Nothing but great successes. Surely we’re winning.
But I think one of the issues here is that if you’re going to opine on matters of theology, you’ve got to be careful. You’ve got to make sure it’s anchored in the truth
Oh dear, somebody has a lot of catching up to do. Start with Council of Nicea and go from there.
FUN FACT: Council of Nicea was formed to settle the age old debate of “should priests cut off their balls or not? On the one hand, Jesus said to do so… on the other hand, my balls.”
The other part was to make it a patriarchal church instead of a matriarchal one. The Virgin Mary used to be the holy figure of Christianity, but men didn’t like that.
Correction, used to be one of the holy figureS, there were other sects with their own favorites (like John the Baptist and many others).
They also tossed a lot of “in between” and after testimonies (Gospel of Thomas et al I think) and more.
BUT, the pressing issue was balls.
Coincidentally, the word “testimony” is derived from the old custom that referred to swearing an oath on your balls (testicles).
Lots of balls. balls balls balls
That obsession survives to this day
I think time and experience has proved Jesus right - priests should definitely cut off their bollocks.
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. ~Matthew 19:12
Not just priests! He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. Castrati and eunochs only recently fell out of favor in the past century
Christians are surprisingly ignorant of their own history, it’s kinda funny
Wow, there really is a passage for everything! New Testament too. Sounds like Christians should be getting busy with the pruning shears. Jesus actually recommends this as a cure for horniness. TBF I guess it would be an effective one.
See also: Skoptsy
Every member of this administration, past, present, and future, need to be held accountable when this is over. If we don’t do that, then the Constitution, our laws, will continue to erode when the next batch of grifters show up to push the envelope to see how far they can bend and break the rules.
“Was God on the side of the Americans who liberated France from the Nazis? […] I certainly think the answer is yes."
So, if you assume God did not like fascists in the 1940s - what makes you think he has changed his mind to now support you and your ilk, couch boy? That’s a mighty big plank to pull from that eye of yours.
They don’t think they’re fascists, they think they’re the good guys
Strongly disagree. Previous administrations, yes. Bush, certainly. But not this one. For that, corruption and self-enrichment are too rampant and poorly camouflaged (if at all), disdain for democratic institutions too blatant, preparations for an authoritarian power grab too brazenly obvious. These guys know who they are and who they serve, and they don’t even feel the need to hide it any more. The mask is off.
Was God on the side of the Americans who liberated France from the Nazis? Was God on the side of the Americans who liberated Holocaust camps and liberated those, those innocent people, you know, those who had survived the Holocaust?
What a silly question. It’s silly because it’s based on the idea that God is a being who would pick sides in the first place. It is generally commonly thought by believers that we are all God’s children. When your children get in a fight do you pick sides and cheer for one of them to kick the other’s ass? I would hope not. I would hope that, as a parent, you would step in and try and stop the fight.
Assuming there is a God, I would hope he/she/it would just be terribly disappointed in all the children involved for not finding a way to settle their differences peacefully.
It’s silly because it’s based on the idea that God is a being who would pick sides in the first place.
If you read the Bible, you’ll find that God picked sides immediately, and has never stopped. He even has a “Chosen People”, you can’t possibly pick sides any further.
We may all be God’s children, but remember, God is perfectly fine with murdering billions of His children, and not only that, He tortures them with Hell forever after. He can’t even let them die in peace.
Yes, it is certainly silly, which makes it all the more horrifying
I feel like there’s a really great Bob Dylan song that deals with this very topic… Maybe JD Vance should listen to it?
I’ll stand over your grave till I’m sure that your dead!
To a fucking POPE of all people… Jesus Dumbass Vance, go back to fucking sofas.
What’s even crazier is people being surprised…
Like, people honestly think conservatives are actually religious and they use religion to dictate their politics and not the other way around.
Some conservstives are some are not
Do you know any conservatives outside of memes. Of course you do, they just don’t want to deal with your hysteria.
Wow, a three-day-old account. Welcome to Lemmy, Fred Garvin! I see you’ve quickly found your sea legs, lol.
I have no idea what you’re talking about…
But I know a lot more conservatives and “conservatives” then most people it’s unavoidable for me
I do! I have known many, and they seemed pretty cool with hysteria.
JADE HELM OH NO OBAMA IS GONNA LOAD US ON TRAINS
The Pope is only the Pope for Catholics. It’s not a universal Christian thing, many don’t place value on his words or accept what he says as accurate.
Anyways they’re all complicit in child sex abuse scandals, so no one should listen to a word they say.
My growing view is that too many American Catholics have failed to show proper deference to the papacy, treating the pope as a political figure to be criticized or praised according to their whims.
Huh, maybe JD should listen to this guy
His conversion doesn’t mean all that much when the voter base is predominantly Protestant
They’re really going with ‘lets pick a moral fight with the Pope’.
… I actually have trouble comprehending this, because it is so obviously a politically stupid thing to do.
JD is apparently considerably more lost in the sauce than I thought, has od’d on his own fart sniffing.
It really is wild how immesenly hubristic this all is, but it does serve as a very useful illustration to the rest of the world to drive home the idea that American Christians ™ quite literally think they speak with the authority of God himself, which is broadly regarded as insane heresy by most other Christians in most of the world.
They’re idiot fascists to the core, and its like 30% of the country that is this way.
“they’re very low IQ.” “Stupid” “losers” all of these weak insults, and they never, ever give examples of such. “How so are they losers?” “What makes you say they’re stupid?” There’s never any push back. These are the things a bully says because they’re insecure and don’t know why. There’s no evidence or thought given to these insults.
How is the Pope weak on crime? Show me when the Pope said Iran should have nukes. This is the most basic push back. The media just lets him say whatever without questioning it.
Fascists don’t use language the way normal people do.
They don’t believe in ‘truth’ or ‘reality’ as most people understand it.
They believe that things just are the way they say they are, because they said so.
They primarily use rhetoric, and pathos.
Logos, logic, actually being correct or truthful… they only employ these things to the extent that they can aid either a rhetorical or emotional appeal.
Their entire strategy is ‘create a collective delusion / cult that appeals to the weak and gullible’.
Trying to evaluate the things they say, logically, is generally a waste of time.
The proper way to converse with a fascist is by breaking their jaw with a baseball bat, to disarm them of their weaponized nonsense projection machines.
Fascists believe language is a weapon, not a means of having a discussion.
Their real language is violence, so you must commincate with them in their native tongue, to succesfully convey any ‘meaning’ to them.
If you can read this you are a pope. Specticals, testicles, wallet, and watch. Ramen.
My pope card is the first piece of ID I provide when asked by LEO. It hasn’t worked well. Yet!
Well obviously you need to give it to someone other than pope Leo, he’s the person least likely to accept it
Ah yes, the holy pentacle, rofl.
His noodly appendage
The pope needs to excommunicate JD
And then curbstomp him to drive the point home.
JD bout to start MAGA Catholicism and install himself as the pope.
A antipope you say? That hasn’t happened in a long time.
A trailer park Avignon, lol.
(nothing against trailer parks . . . that aren’t hosting their own dollar store pope)
Nah, Vance is going to jump over to evangelicalism. It’s more expedient; the white supremacists have always been anti-Catholicism and this will only serve his larger purposes. Also, evangelicals are more lenient on divorce (unless Erica has already moved on since she dropped out of that recent TPUSA event that drew like eleven people the other day)
Quite a Protestant think to say, for a supposed Catholic.
MAGA is JD’s religion now.
JD’s religion is and anyways has been whatever is most politically expedient at the moment. Dude is a snake in the grass when no actual morals or convictions.
Mammon are these people’s religion. Or Ba’al, depending on perspective.
Maybe the Moloch of Despotism?
I dunno. Im hearing children crying under stairways boys sobbing in armies and old men weeping in the park. Smelling ash cans and unobtainable dollars.
