Time to build a wall
Dang, Cyst O’Malley was really onto something here
Why the fook would you move to a third world shit hole country on purpose???
Seriously. Don’t move to the US right now.
I recently knew two people who came to the US recently.
One was from India, and he came for the money. He has a low six figure job as a “product manager” and the CEO’s toady. He’s quite ignorant of US politics and history, so he’s not really concerned.
The other came from canada, but also has EU residency (or citizenship? unclear). He said he makes more money here. He’s making mid six figures as a software engineer at a startup, with poor work/life balance. He can always leave, since his parents own a house in germany.
Neither were coming here like an old timey tale of immigrants trying to find a better life.
I mean, wasn’t the old time reasons for coming mostly about “money”?
I feel like we tend to sorta play up the migrations from the past. I’m sure, especially earlier in history, there were more people looking for some type of freedom, but lots of people migrated for “opportunity”.
its because they can flee if things get bad, indians are likely wanted in other countries as well so its little loss. Its just the high income that draws them here. indians that are migrating that arnt coming from money or not in tech might have more problems.
I volunteered - worked in a hospital laboratory in Haiti for three years. I went to help.
It’s only been the other way around for 249 years.
In what will become known as The Great Immigration Rubberbanding.
Boomeranging?
That’s when all the Americans try to go to Australia.
TAKE ME WITH YOU PLEASE!
The Irish need to build a wall or something. And this is coming from an American.
Well, there are a few big cliffs, I suppose. But that sounds like a lot of work. Hopefully the shitty weather and constant banter should keep most of ye away.
While I get what you are saying I would argue that the Americans that are leaving and becoming immigrants aren’t the shitty Americans that would never think of such a thing.
americans that vote for any side of their uniparty are shitty americans.
The fact they don’t understand that is more proof they need to build that wall.True, it’s the educated that leave. People who have traveled outside the country.
PHD /md specifically fled like years ago, they are smart enough to know winds changed at the beginning .
Two ways you get to leave this country “easily”:
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unattached with little to lose. Go work abroad and establish residency. Cost of the plane ticket to get there.
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lots of money. Buy a golden visa.
For the rest of us it’s a major undertaking with lots of sacrifice, upheaval, risk, and difficulty.
(Yes, this is a simplification and there are exceptions, but for the most part this is true)
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My dad missed out on this by one generation. Our family came over during the Gold Rush, and he wasn’t born until after WW2, so, yeah.
Wish I could go. I’m only a stuntman though, no fucking way I’d be brought over any other way than a program like this. =(
I’m only a stuntman though
“Only”… That is cool as fuck tbh. How did you get into it? You should do an AMA
There’s 5.35 million Irish people and 348 million Americans. The article is saying the rates are changing, and that’s understandable due to the current political climate. But, it’s just not feasible for most Americans.
Natalia Lange, a migrant support worker based in Crosshaven, county Cork, moved there from Michigan with her husband after the 2024 US election. Lange, who is half-Hungarian and has an EU passport
Step 1 to becoming an EU citizen: Be an EU citizen.
I can confirm. 90% of companies don’t want to go through the Blue Card process no matter how qualified you are.
Didn’t fancy Hungary at the time though. Odd.
Certainly don’t blame anyone with the means to get the fuck out of here, I sure would.
I do. Unless you are in immediate danger, to me, it’s running for the hills instead of getting involved and fighting back. It’s a cop out. But to each their own I suppose.
A third of the country voted for fascists and a third didn’t care. What exactly would anyone be fighting for?
Idk, getting rid of fascism so that maybe people have a chance at suffering less? You know, caring about someone other than yourself? Beating it while it’s still incompetent and we still have a chance? But ya, let’s advocate for leaving the country, screw that third of people that voted with you would so easily abandon. You’re a coward and a cuck if you give up the fight to run, especially when the election was so dubious and their grasp on power so weak.
Some people are in immediate danger, although those probably aren’t the ones who have the means to expatriate, and yeah I do understand that point of view and it’s valid, but some people are just tired, you know. You have to weigh your options and choose where you want to put your energy.
Sorry to hear about this invasion. When will they ever stop?
I’m technically eligible as my grandparents were both Irish citizens. The one negative is my wife and kids are not. My cousin who actually works for the Irish consulate said that if I had started the paperwork prior to getting married and having kids, they would be eligible. So like I can bounce out and leave my family behind, but I really don’t want to do that.
Might be worth getting the passport anyway. It’s very solid and gives you access to support from any EU consulate if you’re abroad.
Wait so it is better for my partner if I get my EU citizenship through Ireland then get married than to get married before citizenship?
I was going to work on getting my Irish citizenship, though the thought of many American going there makes Ireland less attractive.
it is better for my partner if I get my EU citizenship through Ireland then get married than to get married before citizenship?
That’s my understanding. Are you doing it through the grandparents rule?
I was going to work on getting my Irish citizenship, though the thought of many American going there makes Ireland less attractive.
I wouldn’t worry about it. There aren’t any noticeable number here tbh and any I’ve come across who have moved here are sound.
Well my grandfather was Irish but also my mother was born in Ireland so it is either a parent or grandparent option.
Oh nice. I think it’s fairly straightforward in that case, though obviously I’ve never done it. Your nearest embassy will be able to fill you in handy enough.
If you do take the plunge and have questions drop me a line by all means but with an Irish parent I’m sure you’ll have plenty of family here willing to help.
America is quickly becoming a dystopia for anyone with some semblance of a conscience.
From Ireland the way it looks to me: It has always been like that for the original inhabitants since Europeans arrived. Just that white privilege isn’t what it used to be now.
You’re not wrong. I’d say the biggest difference is that the oppression is now more overt and intense.
I’d love to. The Irish seem like lovely people. Y’all don’t happen to need a dude good with electronics but no degree, would ya?
Realistically you’d need to get sponsored by a company unless any of your grandparents were Irish citizens (in which case it’s straightforward).
Edit: there are a decent number of tech jobs though so worth a look if you’re genuinely interested.
Anecdata: I know 2.
From the numbers in that article it’s about 1 in every 2000 Americans going in 2025. Surprisingly high rates.
