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Can’t stay on Android because Google is anti-privacy. Can’t get a GrapheneOS phone because they’re only compatible with non-repairable devices. Can’t get a FairPhone or Jolla because I live in America. Can’t get an HMD because the bootloader is locked.
Even e/os and LineageOS have security problems.
There is no good phone on the market, to my knowledge. You can’t have privacy, repairability, and security all at the same time.
Can’t get a GrapheneOS phone because they’re only compatible with non-repairable devices
Replaced the battery in my Pixel 7 in like 30 min with an iFixit kit, nowhere near as imposing as I’d thought. They have screens too, the rest is mainboard, but that’s nearly all phones.
The Pixel 7 requires a heat gun to get to the battery because it’s glued down, and step 31 in the process goes over what to do if your battery is stuck even after applying heat. It’s impressive that you were able to replace the battery without many problems, but companies shouldn’t be adding unnecessary complications like gluing down the battery in the first place.
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Google+Pixel+7+Battery+Replacement/154680
Sure, glue sucks, but I didn’t need a heat gun (or hair dryer), just the microwave heated tube thingy and the slicer tab. Admittedly the old battery was a bit spicy pillow which may have helped, dunno. If it’s too imposing, just get a pro to do it.
Afterwards I got a ‘chargie’ which connects between the wall charger and the phone and lets you choose how much to charge it to, e.g. 80%. More importantly it lets you cut off charging when the device is over a certain temperature, e.g. 33C. Pretty sure the old battery cooked itself during summer, it was happily charging at 50+C, which is definitely not good. 2 years later and it still reports 99% health (although it mostly stays in it’s wireless charging dock, so YMMV). Like that you may not need to replace the battery more than once during the 7 years of security updates the more modern Pixels have.
I’m looking forward to the Motorola and Graphene partnership. I may finally upgrade the S10 in still using.
I’m cautiously optimistic for that but need to see the specs and disassembly. Either way, it’s an important step forward for the phone industry.
Why cant you repair the google phones? Most of the common repairs are not that hard to do. I recently did a battery swap on a “non repairable phone” cost $30 and was pretty easy. Going to replace the usb c port next.
Which model do you have? A lot of them have low scores of ifixit.
Samsung S10. It wasnt repair friendly but taking it apart was just applying some heat and unscrewing some things and once you got it open it was just like a computer but smaller.
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The new Pixel 10a is very much repairable. It also doesn’t have this fucking horrible camera bulge that other Pixels have.
Letting my phone bill lapse just to see if I miss it.
I really feel like I should have bought a phone 2 years ago… Mine is now 6 years old and I hate everything that is happening to android sine version 11(i’m on 10)
tbh, I’m tempted to get a feature phone :/
Well yes. But gotta say, my last three phones lasted me 13 years and counting without requiring any repair. Unless you drop your phone regularly or sometging like that, I am not sure how important repairability really is.
Personally, every modern phone I’ve owned post-Blackberry has battery problems within the first year. I’d like to be able to swap out the battery when that instead of getting a new phone or dealing with bad battery life.
Understandable, though I don’t share your issue. Or rather, it has usually been a software problem (app wasting battery) rather than HW one.
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Introduce cutting edge tech to the masses, claiming it will usher in a new era of connection, convenience and utility.
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Firmly entrench that tech into every corner of modern society so that most day-to-day activities SUPPOSEDLY cannot be done without it.
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Slowly tighten the screws by removing user agency and freedom while raising prices.
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Become obscenely wealthy from an entire generation of locked-in consumers who think they have no choice but to submit to your control over their lives.
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Wash, rinse and repeat.
And yet none of my friends and family can see this blatantly right in front of them. Have people gotten stupider ? Its as obvious as the sun being hot.
I think most don’t care about privacy, cause why would tech giant be interested in them. Especially when using more secure/private alternatives usually means you lose out in convenience, price and “quality” (how fleshed out the app is).
I don’t know if they’re stupid or have just given up or what. I always feel like I’m taking crazy pills when I talk to people about technology. Usually they can’t even acknowledge there’s a problem while I’m so pissed off about it that I’m not sure I could restrain myself from doing physical harm if I found myself in the presence of some of the people responsible for this shit. It’s incredibly frustrating.
I am 10000% in the same boat. I can’t even talk to them about tech because like you, I’ll go insane trying to make them understand these issues and they just laugh it off, or I’m a crazy tinfoil hat person. Even though its documented 100% proven what big tech does.
A lot of them have given up as well. I mean, say you have a kid, then you forgo thinking about anything else in the world except that, who cares if zucc and thiel are destroying the world and surveiling you constantly to bring in a new era of authoritarianism that will result in mass suffering? Your kid needs food. Parents by and large do not care what is actually going on, theyre too busy (from what ive seen.) And I can’t really blame them.
So I prefer to have intelligent conversation online, and when around IRL folks I just act as dumb as them.
It’s that whole frog analogy, where you can slowly boil a frog alive by gradually increasing the temperature by small increments.
I’m pretty sure that’s a myth, but the analogy is still useful to get the concept across. It simultaneously amuses me and disappoints me that so many humans can be aware of this effect and still not recognise it happening to them, whilst the frogs aren’t actually that stupid and jump out of the water.
*after you lobotomised the frog first.
Yes. Yes they have. All it takes is one charismatic idiot to make your otherwise thoughtful and mindful friends to debase themselves. It sucks, but welcome to the world.
Edit: Debate to debate. Fucking autocorrect.
Referencing the recent comic “if everyone in the world thought like me it’d be a better place” except I’m actually right 😩
Hopefully not coming off as too much of an ass, but normies largely won’t care, as it doesn’t immediately affect them. Knowing it’s a bad thing requires a bit of understanding about an operating system that most people just don’t know or care to learn about.
And this is the issue. People are lazy and dumb. No desire to learn.
Right, it’s of no consequence to people who just browse Facebook and do online banking and candy crush and watch TikTok reels. They’re already perfectly happy giving up everything about themselves.
‘Bad’ is just an immediate feeling of aversion to most ‘people’.
It does immediately affect them though
They never had a problem with it.
See Windows and Mac.
Or IOS.
Or the people who cheered when Epic Games lost their lawsuits.
They’re just pzombies. Herd animals.bundles of reaction and reflex without consciousness.
We all start out that way. Not everyone is fortunate enough to grow in an environment that grants them access to education and insights into how tech works.
If you start thinking of others as lesser just because they’re less/uneducated about something then know that someone could be thinking the same of you.
As someone who has been offering those insights for longer than many people have been alive: they call you a nerd hate you for trying to make their lives harder and tell you to fuck off, because mastodon takes five seconds and one decision more to register for than Twitter.
Then ten/fifteen/twenty years later when they panic because you were right about everything, they blame you for Facebook being evil because you knew about it. Despite being the one person they know without a Facebook account.
You’re making up someone to be mad at, who yells at people for using a GUI and shouts “nooooob!” Without irony. That person sounds unpleasant, and I would like an apology for the assumption that I’m them.
Just gotta put this into context:
They’re just pzombies. Herd animals.bundles of reaction and reflex without consciousness.
Sounds like condescending narcissist POC speak to me. No apologies.
Yeah I guess I should just switch to windows. Continue this conversation on discord?
Joke’s on you bud. I use NixOS.
Curiously enough, home-manager supports Discord.
E³ing society.
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So I already have apps downloaded from f-droid including encrypted folder. What happens to this from September. Do i get to keep them?
If i do get to keep them are there any apps I should download while I still can?
Also if f droid is going to stop working but I already have it what does that mean? Are google going to outright takeover my phone like some IT department in a big company and delete and install everything they want on there?
Once this rolls out, the apps stop working. Google have said there’ll be a process you can go through to allow other apps on your phone, but it doesn’t seem to be available yet. Presumably you’ll need to go through this if you want to use f-droid after the change too.
Man this is all horseshit of the highest degree.
Fuck the internet changed so much from when i was a kid. I was some fucking catholic school boy on the internet anonymously having debates and learning things I couldn’t have access to at home or in school. I seen the wonders of the internet and the huge potential enlightenment and community it could bring now we have this shit.
We all going to get arrested in 2030 for having Linux and a VPN aren’t we?
Wish EU kept Nokia going, and invested in Linux too I guess. I’d rather get shafted by the Fins than the Americans
Welcome to Apple Inc
I paid off my old phone early and got a grapheneOS phone ASAP just because of these motherfuckers.
Hell, I was firmly in the Android camp specifically because of the open source nature of their software. I never made the apps I wanted to make, but I like having the option to do so.
So you can go fuck yourself, google. Yes my phone is a Googlepixel 10 because they work best with grapheneOS. In a few years if I can I will get a Linux phone.
I’m really hoping we get a hard fork of AOSP that gets really popular.
it’s called GrapheneOS.
it gets popular by you installing it and telling your friends
Im already doing that but we don’t have big players selling it in stores.
yeah, the problem with a pre-installed OS is that you don’t know what’s in it, the carrier could have installed a fork or spyware that defeats the purpose of GrapheneOS.
it’s much more secure to download, verify, and install the OS to your phone yourself.
hopefully people wake up to all the bad-faith surveillance happening and become willing to take that step, which is much easier than it sound
Why graphene? Lineage os much more popular and supports many more devices.
U can’t trust Google hardware
Don’t let the grapheme crowd hear you. Maybe Motorola will work it out.
Would a hard fork not splinter the software support, killing the ecosystem? E.g. some devs only support that hard fork, others only the android compatible version.
I would be fine with that split. That would be an almost ideal situation even, and a thin compatibility layer like proton or even just an invisible container system similar to docker or flatpak could handle getting more of android onto the fork when it all stops being completely compatible. More effort but hopefully only needed short term.
Hardware compatibility is the major problem with alternative android. Basically I have to buy a 10 year old used phone as is. Would this only make this worse?
Anyway, maybe AI code generation could actually help with things like hardware compatibility. Things like an AI agent could iterate on reading about a smartphone model and testing various configurations and patch drivers to make it compatible for many more devices. Not sure if AI is suitable for that, but you should be able to define stringent test cases for this.
AI can’t code around missing security chips and features in hardware.
Well if that’s what is holding up more hardware compatibility for open android.
They do make a small profit off those phones, while you could’ve simply hit them where it counts with ad-blocking and tracker protection.
Buy used.
Which helps contribute to resale value which contributes to initial sale value.
So I’ll keep using F-Droid then?
What in the Apple products are you trying to do Google? Guess we will just dump you like we did Windows when they put 11 out and the Linux draw became too great.
They are following what Apple is doing because its whats legal. Apple made their system closed and Google made theirs open. Both got sued multiple times in court and Apple kept winning because they were closed and Google kept losing because they were open. It doesnt take much to see what to do next. They will just copy the Apple model in Europe because its the the one most approved by world courts and governments.
There’s a thing called precedent.
Also, Apple has been.contested in Europe precisely because it’s closed. They’ve been forced to open up their app store more… which makes Google’s stance all the more strange.
it’s a nice incentive to double down on my degoogle efforts
Where u gonna go?
You also get AI features you never wanted. Now shut up and be happy
It was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me.
I switched to graphene OS just a month ago when I first heard about it.
I’m happy to report it was easy, everything works perfectly and the user experience is better. Full control, no bloat. Should have switched way sooner but I was intimidated by never having done any installs on a phone.
Yes, dear.
Convenience usually wins until it doesn’t.
Looking at the bigger picture, that convenience was manufactured from the start.
Isn’t all convenience manufactured?
Well literally speaking everything is manufactured.
No
Sure, but not all convenience comes with surveillance attached.
Fair point. People rarely ask what they traded away.
Guess I’ll switch to graphene OS. Oh the horror!!!
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