I’d love to do psychedelics again, but can’t due to medication. Not gonna fuck with bad interactions ever again.
I agree, it isn’t worth the seizure. Even after the the prescription ends, its still to risky to try again IMO.
Depression is hoping a heroic dose of acid causes ego death and maybe life will be slightly less painful afterwards.
Haha yep. 🥲
I am far more mentally stable now than when I was follow the Grateful Dead and doing tons of acid. That was a fun time.
You sure do talk a lot of sense blue sponge bob
Are psychedelics really this popular, or is lemmy just full of people that like them? I had assumed they were a rather niche thing, but the sentiment towards them here today (and not just this post either) seems notably positive, though the descriptions people give sound existentially horrifying to me. Then again, I get anxious enough towards drugs that Ive not even tried alcohol let alone anything less common, so maybe I’m just the weirdo here.
my theory is:
psychadelics open your mind to love
love makes you more aligned with leftist ideas
lemmy is a decentralised place that was popularised by people with leftist ideas leaving other platforms
an average lemmy user is more likely to have taken psychadelics than the average twitter user
Other that fooling around on lemmy my hobby is going to raves so I use MDMA/MDA/LSD once or twice per month. All my friends I meet them on parties, so using is just part of the social circle, but we do other things sober too, like picnics or board game nights. I work in corporate so is something I don’t share with my coworkers, but my wife used to work in a restaurant and was pretty normal to go to party after her shift with her coworkers and get blasted
I used to be completely sober all the way through my 30s. I tried things later and they really helped me see life from different angles. I didn’t try shrooms until I felt I was ready. They are easily one of the best things that ever happened to me. I would not suggest trying them unless you feel comfortable, are in a very familiar environment, and you have a trustworthy, caring friend to keep you company.
It definitely depends. It’s also hard to tell. My most straight-laced friends from college did acid at least once if not more, and there is a friend or two of mine that I would swear on my life experimented with drugs if I didn’t know better.
That’s something people don’t really acknowledge about drugs. The actual rate of hard abuse or like injuries/death is relatively low. It’s like driving a car, it’s one of the most common causes of death but the actual chance is so low that you don’t really think about that every time you hop in one. Similarly, a lot more people have done drugs (at least once) than you would expect. It’s just if you only take acid once there’s an overwhelming chance that it won’t have any long-term effects (except for the epiphany that there’s a wider world out there than just our every day perception lol)
Then again, it varies wildly by region so there’s a fine chance that it really isn’t as popular around you.
Most of my friends have done acid.
I think that the nature of Lemmy attracts people who are drawn to seek out new experiences and alternative lifestyles, so it’s less that psychs are widely popular and more this community has a higher percentage of users. That said, I don’t know anybody that does acid on the regular anymore, it was pretty uncommon when I was a teen, and the people who I know who like to trip (usually hippies, ravers, and punks) are typically doing shrooms. Might also be because I live in shroom country so they’re easy to find and cheap if you have to buy them. Gotta say, a few days in the middle of the backcountry with a dose it nice, I can’t imagine doing it and going to the bar on a weekend.
Nah, I just don’t know where to get drugs.
Search for the dark net bible.
is this the illicit internet version of google is your friend? you can just say you don’t know either.
Darkweb markets get raided or rug-pull regularly.
People don’t recommend specific markets, because they probably won’t exist for long.
Instead, you’ll get recommended to places like dread, so you can find the current ‘least untrusted’ markets yourself.
Not that i stopped, and would absolutely have either if the opportunity ever presented its self again (probably not). I found that the older you get in general just makes it harder since, at least in my experience, you have way more to worry about that eats at you. Closer to death, more health issues, money could be worse than before, wife/husband and possibly kids to worry about. Stupid things i did in my early 20’s would never fly today just because I think things through way more and realize how bad those things were back then lol. Thankfully the few times i was able to do these things were all great experiences despite that, and its most likely to being with good friends who also joined.
Also, lsd lasts a LONG time, and it’s easier to find a whole day to fuck off into space when you’re younger. I’ve got a kid, I can’t get 12 minutes of free time at once, let alone 12 hours.
Exactly. Going on tour and dosing for a bunch of days and having a long enough time off to come down and just chill is not possible anymore.
damn, its been a few years but i hadn’t considered all that extra baggage weighing down a trip now that i am older.
but i think i am due for it. i think it is healthy to have a nice safe trip in a good environment.
i always feel so refreshed for like… 3 months-ish? after a trip
Yeah that’s what’s stopped me…I used to trip the light fantastic, but anymore, the thought of ego death isn’t liberating, and as I’ve gotten older my background anxiety (set) seems to only go in one direction. Kids, House, work, etc… it’s a little late for me to tune out and drop out
Acid i could handle rn, but mushrooms are out. You can just kinda have fun on acid, but eventually mushrooms make you face things
that’s what i love psychadelics, they make you stop running away from yourself. when you set yourself up correctly you can do years of therapy in a single night. sometimes it’s a painful process (mentally speaking ofc) but it’s always worth it, always helping you grow
Opposite for me. I can handle shrooms but not acid
I guess it depends on the dose. I had good and bad moments on acid, and now I’m too afraid to take acid and have a bad trip, cause I know I should probably get over some stuff before. Mushrooms I have only taken small doses and I just got more enthusiastic in the way I was talking to friends, laughing more probably…
I know this sounds crazy but with LSD taking too little is the problem. Its not for everybody but I like taking enough that my legs get wobbly and I have to lay down with headphones on and just watch the show and have never had issues. I completely understand why someone would feel apprehensive about such an endeavor.
DMT has this reputation of taking a user too far too fast and leaving a person unable to process what happened but in my opinion ( for someone that truly wants to step out of this world ) it’s the best psychedelic because the ego can’t react fast enough to try and stop its temporary demise which is where all the trouble people have with psychedelics come from in my experience ( and it also leaves you in an instant state of slumber so there is no running in the streets naked ).
You take a hit and might have a few seconds before everything in you mind with attachments to the ego dissolves. You may remember your last thought of tring to remember what a tree is or your favorite aunts name before it all goes away and you get confronted by “something”. I don’t know what it is even though I have seen it hundreds of times it’s really not anything that can be understood when you come back but seeing “it” every once in a while somehow makes me happy to be alive
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I love people talk about how/why theyre glad to be alive cause it somehow makes me glad I’m alive too.
It’s the opposite for me.
Acid is streets ahead of mushrooms in terms of intensity, for me. But I know it’s different for everyone.
In the end dosage is very relevant and of course even more important: set and setting
I do think acid is more homogeneous and easier to dose appropriately though (YMMV) But the length of a trip can make it challenging.
Do heroic doses of either, shrooms for me result in more body load and are more introspective chaotic/mystic. Acid more energetic/clearer/“Neon” wider headspace. But in the end setting is what I think is most important for how the trip plays out (I had my best and worst trip on shrooms).
Acid lasts a lot longer than mushrooms, but for me mushrooms always included a brief bout of severe paranoia. I loved both of them, but now I would fight to avoid having to take either one. I’m just too old – psychedelics are for young, invincible people IMHO.
I don’t know if I’m old but I’ve noticed younger people calling me sir lately and all I can say is it gets better with age. …zero anxiety these days ✌️
streets ahead
Pierce, youre supposed to be dead
I can’t handle either anymore, really, but acid over mushrooms is wild to me. The amount of time, the comedown…
Maybe you’ve never had access to high quality mushrooms then? Being from a place where they can be bought in a store, quasi-legally, I won’t eat more than a couple grams of the stronger varieties, because 2 grams will already make me see sound and hear colour. And I ain’t no light weight.
But a couple tabs of acid, sure. I’ll be vibing hard, definitely acting pretty dumb. But reality will not melt before my very eyes. Might see some cool colours and what not, but it’ll always remain controllable. The problem is always the length.
Now DMT is a whole 'nuther thing. 5-10 mins of, holy shit I’m not even on earth anymore, and then BAM, back to reality. It’s quite nice.
2 grams will already make me see sound and hear colour
Is that what it does? I already have synesthesia why would I make it worse
There’s more variety in types of shrooms than any other substance imo. There are many kinds that are pretty chill, but Blue Penis Envy by example is not to be trifled with.
I could just as easily ask if you’ve never had access to high quality acid.
Sorry, didn’t mean to sound condescending.
But yes I definitely have. That’s the cool thing about things, everyone can have their preferences and that’s alright.
It’s all good. People react differently too. I generally enjoyed mushrooms more, but I always found the hallucinations more tethered to reality-- nature mostly. Like seeing all the patterns and fractals in the trees or waves. Feeling the breathing of the earth. I’ve had trips on acid where I felt physically and emotionally “normal” but I had 100% visual hallucinations. Like the entire setting around me transforming into something else entirely. And not in a way that I could “shift back” away from.
That’s interesting, and I get what you mean, although I’ve definitely had similar experiences on shrooms where I was “locked” out of reality.
One thing that I’ve learned over the years is that being sound of mind is extremely important when it comes to doing hallucinogenic substances. As someone who is generally very low in anxiety, this normally is not an issue for me, but my few bad experiences have all occurred during times of emotional instability.
Yeah I’m naturally quite anxious. In my younger days, I would find relief in weed and psychedelics. At some point they began to amplify it :(
Sounds like it’s time for a business trip then.
I’d like to try dmt, but don’t have any connections that I trust because we’re all too old.
I wish I’d had access to DMT when I was actively doing psychedelics. Seems like it got really popular in the last few years. I had friends that were selling DMT vape pens.
DMT is great. It’s so short and forceful you don’t have time to have a bad trip. My most difficult times on mushrooms, LSD, or various 2C-x compounds were because I had time to think.
There’s no time to think on DMT. One second you’re sucking on the vape and it tastes funny, the next second every thing is melting, you have to close your eyes, and some entity is comforting you and welcoming you back, despite this being your first time.
Syrian rue x DMT
LSDMT is the way. Nothing like it. Take the LSD after the peak rock the vapor genie. When you come back the LSD trip is permanently changed into a beautiful chilled out lacy vibe
Unfortunately you can have a bad trip on DMT. Don’t neglect your set just because it’s so short. It can get extremely intense extremely quick and you’re out of it before you manage to work it through
Maybe one day… I first read about it in the mid 90s in a Terrence McKenna book (True Hallucinations),and a few years later in The Spirit Molecule. For now, I can tolerate minidose mushroom gummies at a concert haha.
It’s a very interesting substance. The short duration is a blessing, if you’re uncomfortable just wait 20 minutes and you’re sober again. You’re never going to be locked into hours of thought spirals. I’ve had more difficult experiences with cannabis than DMT.
Yeah that was always a major appeal for me, and something that has held my curiosity even though I can no longer enjoy psychedelics or cannabis.
IF I have like 10-12 hours, I’d take acid over mushrooms any day of the week. So much more predictable, and as someone who has little interest in microdosing, it’s a more controlled experience.
I’ve never had a bad time on acid, but I definitely have with shrooms.
So does acid, at least for me. Haven’t done shrooms though
Oh you’re afraid of yourself? What’s next? Afraid of peanuts?
Honestly yeah that’s an important act of maturity. I love acid, but I waited until I was ready for it. I haven’t done it in years but it was hugely helpful for my self improvement during a difficult and transitional stage of life. Too early and it may not have gone so well
I started early , I watched people lose their minds permanently, I never stopped and found in old age it is a far more enjoyable experience. I appreciate it like a fine work of art that young me just didn’t understand. I honestly couldn’t imagine what my life would have been like if I couldn’t step away from this world from time to time.
Drugs aren’t for everybody, I don’t recommend them but if you are going to take LSD make sure you have a blast of DMT to go with it. It’s the bomb
…anymore
do it anyway
Maturing is realizing you’re not mentally stable enough to do acid.
Wisdom is doing it anyway.
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Well… ok… but just maybe…
I’m just too tired and busy. I had 4 tabs of acid in my psychedelic cupboard. Someone gave me more, now I have 7. One of these years I’ll get away and trip my balls off in a forest, but it’s not this year.
Why would you wanna trip balls in the forest? That’s how you become an acid trip for a bear.
You must not have heard of the Electric Forest Festival.
There are some bears, but not that kind.
I have. I figured there’s a lot of folks there. I mean more like by yourself.
Still personally, I wouldn’t. But I also have really bad luck. If it can go wrong for me, it will.
I’ve done both. Day tripping by myself in a hammock looking up at the pines swaying in the breeze, shit, I sat on the ground and just stared at lichen for a long time lmao. There’s nothing like it, incredible. But if I’d run into a bear, I’d have lost my shit lol.
I’d feel much less lackadaisical about it if I lived in grizzly country.
It really depends on the forest but that’s where the best trips can happen.
DMT only takes 15min 🫠
Ugh it’s so hard to break through though… out of 10+ times with n,n- I’ve only broken through a handful of times.
The most intense 15 minutes of my life each time, though…
I once told my buddy/plug about salvia, and in his questionable wisdom he decided that 20x extract was the way to go, because why waste money otherwise. When my turn came to partake, I managed to start inhaling as hard as I could. Not sure what happened after that, because my whole world turned into a cartoon kaleidoscope, and I forgot who the fuck I was and where. I knew that there was probably some extent of my physical being, and did the stereotypical gawking at my hands, and walked around just a bit, none of which helped in any way. About five minutes later I was back, but occasionally had momentary flashbacks to the irreality for a day or so.
Ugh yeeeep I feel you on salvia. I still have some 40x extract. I did it once and I hated it soooo much. I felt so weird, I kept hallucinating, the body load was awful, and I felt like I had flashbacks too hahaha.
n,n-DMT is the opposite of that. The body load is the heaviest of anything I’ve ever done, not even close. It smells like aliens. It tastes like aliens. You need to rip big rips three or four times in a row and hold it in to break through. Your body is SCREAMING at you to stop after the second rip. But if you manage… it’s the most actual legitimate magic thing in the world ever. Legitimately actual magical wonder. All of the jokes people make are true. I saw a color that doesn’t exist in the regular world. I can still see it in my mind and that was like 16 years ago. I don’t have the right crayons to show other people, but I do have a vial full of graham cracker-colored powder I’ve had for ages. I think it’s time to try breaking through again soon.
I mean, unless you also have some molly…
But yea otherwise i am done with acid.
Most likely.
Why did you have to hurt me like this
