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“I’d rather my kids be autistic than dead”
I think this is a completely valid train of thought.
Misguided for sure, but valid.
What all these people would say if they both believed their bullshit and loved their kids.
I’m curious how many people are vaccinating their children, but don’t want to have the rest of their friends and family know.
Not enough.
*than
In this case it actually matters.
Completely fair
Not exactly misguided. Also that is a quote from some old comedian. (Steven Fry?)
It also makes discussions with people believing it easier. You can avoid discussing what they believe as facts and focus on the decision they make.
Reminds me of a bit some streamer did about a trans inclusionary radical misogynist. “I get it, if I was born a woman I’d want to be a man too! And any weak man that can’t hack it should get to be a woman! Trans rights!”
It makes me laugh everytime I see people like that. It’s just so funny to me that there are people that can get over a pretty recent prejudice, but not the one that’s thousands of years old, that is significantly less socially acceptable than the other. Actually, I think that they should have cage matches with terfs.
Tbh, it’s not that surprising to me.
Trans prejudices are, as you said, rather new and to most people rather impactless. Most people don’t have close daily contact with trans people, just because there aren’t that many, so it’s not that difficult to say “You know, I don’t really care”.
Man/woman stereotypes on the other hand are super deeply ingrained and even if you are conciously watching out for them and trying to avoid them you will inevitably fall prey to some of these. They are so ingrained that they are just subconcious.
For example, one of my kids had a birthday party. We were at some indoor playground and quite quickly the girls and boys of that group separated and each of the two groups did their own thing.
I checked in with the girls every 10 minutes or so, asking them if they are doing alright. After the third or fourth time I realized that I only did that with the girls, because apparently I subcontiously trusted the boys to manage on their own, but not the girls or something. So I stopped doing that.
I mean, you believed that the boys would do something stupid if you asked if they’re ok ;)
Besides I think I’d have the opposite reaction, boys tend to do stupid crap, girls are simply mean (depending on the age, assuming 5th grade)
Was the person shit posting to highlight the absurdity of bigotry by changing the perspective or where they genuine?
Shit posting. It was a joke.
This was from the Penn and Teller TV show called Bullshit! They said, " Assume the research paper is correct. Going by their statistics, you are far more likely to die than get autism."
And the paper turned out to be fraud.
far more likely to die than get autism."
And the paper turned out to be fraud.
So… you are actually far more likely to get autism than to die:P
The paper that claimed a link between vaccine and autism.
It’s kinda wildly offensive that these anti vaxxers would rather have a dead kid than an autistic one, they speak about autism like it’s leprosy
There is an entire Behind the Bastards series on people who shilled the anti-vax rhetoric.
Robert makes the point that for the anti-vax crowd, it’s the idea that “you are a bad parent and that’s why your kids got autistic” is worse than “vaccines gave your kids autism”.
It’s even worse when you add genetics to the mix because now parents have to believe something made their kids this way instead of something they had no control into.
The absolutely wild thing is that anti-vax used to be a largely liberal stance but with the added conspiracy theories, it swung over to the right.
So, TL;DR: parents are assholes who don’t want to face reality that their child is not what they wanted them to be and would rather not have the burden of raising them and blame something else.
The absolutely wild thing is that anti-vax used to be a largely liberal stance but with the added conspiracy theories, it swung over to the right.
Kinda like how the original men’s rights movement was dads who wanted more parental rights and to see their kids, but because they chose a bad name, it became a movement for incels and misogyny and the original people were chased out
They should have called it the dad’s rights movement or the gender neutral parental rights movement
Even worse is that research indicates autism is heavily linked to pollution, and the anti-vax right wing crowd voted the guy in that wants to remove all environmental restrictions.
Dude, I have never heard about that. WTF? I seriously wonder if all of them going after the colleges and scientists is to stifle this stuff, the shit that his cult has fallen for already.
Exposure to fine particulate air pollution (PM2.5) has been linked with significantly increased risk of autism spectrum disorder (ASD) in children, particularly if exposure occurs during the third trimester of pregnancy or during early childhood, according to a meta-analysis from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.
The study was published April 29, 2021, in Environmental Research Letters.
The authors noted that there has been a steep rise in the prevalence of childhood diagnosis of ASD over the past several years, from 6.7 per 1,000 people in 2000 to 16.8 per 1,000 people in 2014. Possible risk factors include those related to family, such as genetics or parental age, or the environment. Previous studies have found an association between exposure to ambient particulate matter (PM) and neurobehavioral dysfunction, but they’ve been inconclusive regarding the link between PM exposure and the development of ASD.
https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/air-pollution-linked-with-increased-risk-of-autism-in-children/
Isn’t that how it’s supposed to work? Parents preferring live children to dead ones in world that constantly throws weird bullshit their way?
Okay but what if my kid turns out gay or trans or a different kind of christian than me? It’s better that they die than any of that, right?
Sadly yes. If they really believe their book, they prefer them dying without sin than living and being damned to hell. Which nicely encompasses in a single sentence most off what is wrong with religions, Christianity in particular.
Except that isn’t in the Bible. The whole “Age of Accountability” thing is a very new idea, coming up only within the last 200-ish years or so. Like a lot of other stuff that fundamentalists bang on about, whether you believe that Christianity on the whole is made up or not, that part definitely is.
The fun part is that the whole resonation thing was about letting people read the actual bible, do they could live more like the actual word of god.
But then come up with stuff that’s not even in there and treat it like gospel.
Yeah, we need another good reformation for sure. I’ll get my nails.
…for a list of theses and a door, to be clear. Not for, like, a crucifixion.
Some (but not very much) of the bullshit they ramble on about is in there, but it’s not in the important part.
All of the fire and brimstone, Sodom & Gomorrah, “I am a vengeful god” shit is in the Old Testament. Sure, the Old Testament is important (it’s like half of the book, after all), but it’s important as backstory. It’s literally just the Torah in a different order, included because Christianity started as a breakaway sect of Judaism.
The part that actually pertains directly to Christianity starts with a list of “begats,” some very confused shepherds, and a barn baby getting presents. The New Testament is mostly about helping others and being tolerant; and the star of the show, Jesus, literally goes around telling people that they can get into heaven just by being nice and helping the needy. He gets angry exactly once, and goes on a table-flipping rampage because someone else was taking advantage of poor pilgrims. It’s the kind of thing that a lot of the Christian Right would call “hippie bullshit,” but it’s also the entire point of their religion.
Just because it “isn’t in the bible” doesnt mean it isnt part of Christianity.
It kinda does, in this case. Their particular brand of it is all about fealty to the Bible; so if they aren’t upholding that basic tenet, they aren’t Christians. Ergo what they’re doing isn’t Christianity.
That’s a very ahistorical view of what Christianity is–Christianity existed for decades (centuries?) before there even was a bible.
Before it was collected as a compendium of official parts, sure, but most of the individual books (both the ones that made it into the current version and additional ones that ended up being rejected) were around. The Old Testament ones were already written down, and most of the Gospels were at least oral tradition very early on.
I believe it was over one hundred years before the Gospels were all written down, and early Christian sects had passionate disagreement over which texts were official or hearsay, but it’s not like they were completely without religious texts.
