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    There’s probably no conspiracy theory in play, but I do think it’s funny that the first WHCD he attends as president because he hates the event and doesn’t understand it ends as soon as it starts because of a gunman. Creating a gunman distraction to avoid getting roasted by the press is not beyond Trump but also who out there doesn’t want to see him dead at this point? It’s just that I’m not sure which answer Occam’s Razor falls at this point because false flag and honest attempt seem about equal likelihood!

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      So apparently one of the awards they were going to hand out tonight was for investigative journalism relating to the Epstein files…

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      I do like the idea of doing drastic, insane stuff to get out of awkward social situations. Best I’ve heard so far is Clarence Thomas trying to repeal Loving v. Virginia so he wouldn’t have to file for divorce.

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    If the attacks are all fake, its incredibly poor false flag, because nobody feels bad for the prick except his absolutely ardent fans.

    If they’re real, it should prove to everyone how absolutely hated he is, because no other US president in recent memory has had two assassination attempts that were publicly reported.

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    So for those of you like me who hadn’t heard the news before seeing this, apparently some guy rushed through the metal detector area at the White House correspondents dinner, but was stopped by security staff.

    A bit like rushing Area 51 but if someone tried to solo the mission.

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    If you go to Reddit r/conservative it’s selling. It’s always the same the attacker donated like 20 dollars os something to Democrats one time.

    My fear they could use this to take out freedoms, spy on peoples social media, or even worse say it’s a mental health problem be critical of them and start to get so called “dangerous” people by their speech.

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      Yeah but conservatives don’t believe in mental health, remember? That’s why American healthcare practically considers it an indulgence.

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        They definitely believe in mental health like trump derangement syndrome. That’s enough to put people in cages.

        The pseudo-science of psychiatry doesn’t do much to help. That’s a root of the problem.

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        Whenever there’s a public mass shooting they always say “we need to talk about mental health”, and then… that’s it.

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    This second assassination theatre production is why we need to release the trump/epstein Files! He was reading a prepared statement very soon thereafter. It had to have been pre-written.

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    I’m not a person who believes in many conspiracies but, the first WHCD he attended since 2016 and there was virtually no security at the hotel?

    If you ever been in a city with a military base when the president or VP land, you know that doesn’t make sense. You don’t even need to be that close and they are on you.

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      there was virtually no security at the hotel?

      Were we looking at the same event?

      The hallways were full of uniformed Secret Service agents and there were several plain clothes/undercover agents in many of the initial images.

      There were also many uniformed local police (one took a round in their bodyarmor).

      There were magnetometers for screening guests.

      There was a fully kitted counter assault squad standing by close enough to be on stage in about 10 seconds.

      The airspace was restricted and there were agents on the roof with counter drone weapons.

      There were multiple layers of security.

      All he managed to do was to sprint through an initial screening point and right into a hallway full of federal agents and local police where he was subdued.

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        Apparently you could get into the hotel with just a paper ticket. That’s what I was talking about.

        (I don’t actually believe it was staged)

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          Yeah, while it was closed to the general public for security reasons. Existing guests were given a pass to get through the perimeter security.

          The event space was the primary security area and he was tackled before getting passed the entrance security.

          Since this was a place where the President’s was prescence was planned, the security would be especially heavy. (If bad guys know where you’re going to be they can plan more larger, more complex attacks.)

          The security would have been set up, covertly, to repel the equivalent of a ground assault. They’d have an ground quick reaction force nearby, the air space was restricted so there were likely drones or worse overhead.

          Trump is incompetent, but the Secret Service isn’t (insert jokes about the sniper here) and they have basically infinite money as far as bodyguards go.

          This guy didn’t get remotely close, at best the agents saved his life by tackling him before he got far enough for them to use lethal force.

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            He was able to get close enough that Wolf Blitzer was standing close by to where it happened. That’s awfully close.

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              A member of the press was in the hallway at a dinner for members of the press. That doesn’t give any information about how close he was other than telling us he was in the right building.

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                That’s true but if he was in the building, he also could have detonated a bomb and that’s pretty close for that.

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                  Yeah, he could have and it would have killed a lot of federal agents but they’re there to, at the last extreme, die to protect the President.

                  He would have had to get through the hallway gauntlet of armed agents, through a fortified entryway checkpoint, through a heavily armed counter assault team and passed the wall of bodyguards to even see the President.

                  He ran the first checkpoint and was captured. It’s like saying someone almost captured a military base because they drove through the gate. There are many, many more lethal layers between him and his objective.

                  The scarier scenario was one where he would have carried a suicide vest to disrupt or kill the outer security so that another armed team could get through. That’s why you see the counter assault team appear on stage immediately. They’re there to handle the follow-on armed assault so the personal protection detail has time to get away.

                  From a security perspective, he didn’t even get close. The idea that someone would sprint passed the screening area is already accounted for. It isn’t exactly a new or revolutionary tactic.

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    I am not sure if was staged or not. But after his post as Christ and attacking the pope, his numbers with Christians were really low.

    It’s a coincidence this person made a big post attacking Christians just before. For sure will help his numbers with this group

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    It’s more likely the gunman was there to shoot at the press that TFG has vilified for the last ten years than an AA on his corpulent personage and his minions.

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    Dunno, the media is loudly spinning him into a hero. And average low-info Americans tend to believe what they’re told.

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    Let’s say they’re all fake, and they ramp up the frequency.

    Now it’s so so common place the security guys already expect some guy with a riffle to walk in the back door.

    “Ah mr assassin today? Alright pass on through.”

    Except that, one day that’ll be the real one 🥳