Crossposted from https://lemmy.world/post/47504963

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Title text: This is how you all fucking sound

[A smug tech bro wearing a sideways cap, watch, chain around his neck stands in front of a data center by a lake with dead fish. A smoke stack blows pollution into the air]

Tech bro: AI is already here, there’s no going back.

[A smug man in a suit with cigarette in hand stands in a restaurant while two disgruntled diners cough from the smoke]

Suit: Smoking indoors is already here, there’s no going back.

[A smug man in a top hat and suit stands in a factory with two sad and dirty children]

Hat: Child labor is already here, there’s no going back.

[A smug plantation owner stands in front of a field with with two angry slaves]

Plantation owner: The Atlantic Slave trade is already here, there’s no going back.

Still Vreni on Bluesky

  • ɔiƚoxɘup@infosec.pub
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    19 hours ago

    In a very real sense, there is much to undo. They’ve already constructed many data centers with on site natural gas power generation with zero license, regulation, or oversight one of which produces enough energy to power something like 75% of Texas. Still though, it is not inevitable!

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    21 hours ago

    The most important difference is that “AI” doesn’t actually exist.

    So the comparisons to smoking, child labor, and the slave trade are not just silly. They’re somewhat offensive.

    The accuracy could be improved by using historical grifts like “theory of the humors” or similar. That’s the analogy.

    As it is, terrible meme.

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    Nonsense

    • Internet is here, there is no going back
    • Quantum Physics are here, there is no going back
    • Mobile Phones are here, there is no going back
    • Electricity is here, there is no going back

    Following the logic of the meme:

    AI is here and cannot be regulated and limited, like also not big corps, billonairs, corrupt politicians…

    Technology cannot be uninvented, it cannot be blamed for the evil, self-interested and stupid use without law and rules that is given to them, bad habits, bad laws, and abuse isn’t an valid simil to AI, but a human one.

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      Like how leaded gasoline, CFCs, and ActiveX cannot be uninvented and are still found everywhere? Regulation absolutely can restrict a technically society doesn’t want around, as can a move to alternative solutions.

      And that doesn’t mean it disappears entirely. Avgas is still leaded and CFCs are still being used in specific contexts like Teflon manufacturing. But they’re no longer everywhere. ActiveX is pretty much dead, though.

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        What I say, AI need regulation, but the problem to do it depends on politicians paid by big corps and old judges which confuse an remote control with an mobile phone

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      The problem with the comic is that the other 3 have specific definitions and “AI” is entirely too vague

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        It’s always too vague, there are thousends of AI apps and services, specialized in dozends of way different tasks. also LLM isn’t always a negative description, everyLLM is needed to permit an easy interaction with humans. As said, it depends for what and how we use it and who has made it and for what with which intentions. I use an AI search assistant (Andisearch) from a small startup of 2 devs, which was the first AI search ever, several years ago with a different approach as any other and almost 0 hallucinations. It does exactly for what it was made for, not pretending more, Summarizing contrasted with several sources, 100% privat and anonymous, no logs, no cookies, random proxy and sandboxed results. Instead of inventing results when it don’t find an answer, it offers an traditional websearch without AI.

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    2 days ago

    But it is the future! A future filled with contaminated drinking water, and exponentially increasing heat.

    We all thought it was going to go down with us fighting some Terminator robots or some shit, but… naw they’re just poisoning and cooking us while we’re distracted by our 9-5s.

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    Gonna seem real silly when the AI extinction bubble pops and all the survivors have to live locally on GPUs like they should have always been. Big fucking waste of everything.

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    More like oil is already here…

    And there is no going back because the rich WILL use it regardless.

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    Only works with things that have proven efficacy. Like the car replacing the horse or electricity replacing various manual labour tasks, like doing laundry.

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      Car replacing the horse was a disaster that also needs to be stopped.

      Should have been bicycles and trains.

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    Point 1 isn’t that ludacris if we could outlaw the training of new models. The effort of training them is the largest part.

    GPT4ALL can run models easily, privately and locally on your computer - because the training is done, it’s past tense. All you’re doing when you ask it something locally/offline is remixing it.

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      How would you make better models then? Like force everyone to team up so there’s “only” one datacenter? Waiting for techbto catch up?

      I’m genuinely curious as I don’t think any of the big companies are going to stop just like that.

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        Hence “if we could outlaw the training of new models” - but I suppose if you love new models that much, you could limit their training to educational institutions who have to propose new models via an ethics boards before training them - much like is done with medical experimentation.

        P.S hahaha I’m getting down votes for saying to outlaw the training of new models, you’re getting upvotes for saying “but how will I get new models?”. What sub even is this?

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          A lot of the downvoters in this group aren’t actually in this group. They’re the slop mongers who hunt Lemmy for anybody who says anything negative about LLMbeciles and other digital parrots and downvote them.

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          You were getting flak for putting words in my mouth and acting like an edgy teenager.

          I don’t LOVE New models so much!!

          And if you think the world spins around your jurisdiction I can’t do anything for you.

          The newer better models will be built, by your country or some other (China or even Europe), so how to do it the best way was my question.

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            Dumb ass you’re on my thread, you’re replying to my comment (the downvoted one)… So no I’ve not got any flak for putting words in your mouth…

            YOU asked about “how will we get new models!!” That was your concern, not me putting words in your mouth …your exact words were:

            “How would you make better models then?”

            Another slop brained AI idiot, worried about the wrong things in life.

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      That requires international solidarity. Else they’d just pay off some poor government official in another country to build the DCs there instead

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        Yes technically “but a corrupt government just wouldn’t do it” can knock down all suggestions and is the ultimate argument for reenforcing total apathy… If that’s your aim.

        Also, don’t bother responding, because an even more corrupt government would just censor free speech online, so no point you saying anything back. See it’s the ultimate apathy.