Because, they can shamelessly pay them less and get away with it?
No because men rape the dead bodies of women
Why would you consider that to be rape?
Dead people can’t consent
Objects can’t consent at all and they never could, permission from an object to act on it sounds exactly like why the right think the left has gone crazy.
What do you mean never? When they were alive they could consent. Why does that change when they die? Just because someone is incapacitated through death, doesn’t give us the right to rape them. When consent is not given it is presumed you don’t have it.
When alive, the body was a person. They are not incapacitated through death, they dead. Gone. The person ceases to be and only the object and memories remain.
Notice how you use the pronoun “they” for what you said is now an object.
And calling people objects is why the right is crazy.
If a person drowns and has no heartbeat, is it okay for you to have a quickie with them before the paramedics arrive to save him? Clinically they’re dead, so… by your logic, they’re an object, and never had the ability to consent in the first place, so quickly fucking them up the arse should be a-okay, right?
Or is there like a timer you have for when a person goes from a person to an object, which then retroactively never had personhood anyway? Is it just time, or is it temperature, or as soon as the smell sets in? Some people have been clinically dead for half an hour in cold water before being resuscitated, the cold helping protect from brain damage. And some people smell like dead bodies while alive.
I’m just curious as to your personal criteria.
The object never has agency. The person does. This edge case is a fine one, but only suggests that the person is dormant, not gone, and can be returned to life. If a body is in a morgue for a week, that ain’t going to be a possibility.
Yeah. People aren’t objects. Even if human remains were, you’d have a hard time arguing when a person stops existing without “well once they’ve rotted for a week, they’re definitely not alive.” yeah no shit
Neither can shoes.
Neither can couches.
A dead person isn’t equal to a shoe. As humans we show more respect to our dead than old shoes.
You said dead people can’t consent. I said neither can shoes. Tell me the bit where I am wrong?
You have now added something about equality, on which I never commented.
Why wouldn’t you? There are very few instances in which one can assume they have consent over another person’s body.
Because rape is something that happens to a person, not an object. Are women raping their dildos?
Hey, what kinda person are you?
A rational one.
So, the closest thing I’ve had to a childhood hero is Spock from the 60s Star Trek show. As I’ve grown older and more aware of of the world around me, I’ve realized elevating rationality to a virtue by itself isn’t enough to form a coherent ethos. In fact, I think individuals are actually very bad at rationality. Everyone who puts rationality on a pedestal, from Zizians to SBF to Reddit atheists to Elon Musk to Randian libertarians, is really just forgetting how subjective rationality can be.
I firmly believe that compassion is just as important as rationality when it comes to building strong, honest societies. You need both. We want ethics that are internally consistent, sure, but rationality and internal consistency don’t themselves give ethics purpose.
Putting aside the discussion about bodies and objects, the primary concern is consent - which also applies to objects anyway. Would you steal a dead person’s wallet “because they don’t need it anymore”?
Can you rape a wallet?
I doubt even the premise is true
Dudes just wanna crack open a cold one.
Ugh. Take my upvote.
so i guess it was a massive red flag when i asked them how many cameras were in the room during my interview
Bless my heart for thinking it was for corpse makeup…
To pay them less? That’s so fucked up.
I mean, honest question that I really do not want to google. Is this actually a wide spread problem?
wide spread
Ok that ones on me, I should’ve caught that
You know that Dr. Who meme? The one where the blonde woman asks “Is it a lot?”
Just think of it that way.
I had an ex who worked in this field, she went to mortuary school and worked in mortuaries, before that she worked in organ transplant. She went into the field because of a combination of personal tragedy (a close one passing away at an early age) and seeing how delicately the mortuary handled the event.
Anyhow, she and I would talk about it often. One of the things she would note on, wasn’t that it was sexual based things men would do (besides general office sexism coming from men on occasion), but more about the level of respect they showed the deceased. Crude Comments they’d make about their weight, features etc…
So I think it just depends and it would be difficult to verify these other claims because the “victims” are deceased and most things related to it seem to be anecdotal.
I’m also not going to google necro in anyway
(Also yes, she was kinda emo/metal an had some pretty sick tattoos)
Because the corpses don’t tell them how pretty they’d look if they smiled?
There was some (mildly) famous case, I think a book was written about it, of a woman who was a necrophiliac and worked at a morgue. There was a big reddit thread about it years ago.
Bit chauvinistic to assume women can’t be necrophiles if they put their minds to it, innit?
Unlike the FBI I don’t make crass assumptions about my perverts.
Yes but…
Yes, but that’s temporary. They’ll get tender after a while 💖
A massive priapism!
Sealab 2021 burned that word into my brain
What exactly are the reasons?
Apparently they think women don’t wanna fuck corpses. But I am pretty sure the people that go into that industry are probably cut from the same cloth
