• Cris_Citrus (he/him <3)@piefed.zip
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    11 days ago

    Cool echo of history given the maffia/mob ran many of the bars where queer people were welcome when things like cross dressing was criminalized

    If I remember right the bar where stonewall started was a mafia or mob run bar

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      10 days ago

      It was, but they were far from allies. They muscled on their patrons as often as the cops did to drag more cash out of them, because they knew they had a blackmailable secret and they couldn’t go to the cops.

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          Yeah, the mob is extremely patriarchal and very very misogynist and queerphobic. Has been for ages, the Italian mob is typically extremely traditionalist Catholic. So the fact that this guy put his hand on his son’s back and said, “Yeah, he dresses like a woman for fun, and he’s good at it. And if any of you make him miserable about it, they’ll never find your body.” is a massive shock.

    • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      Mafias are basically proto governments. They have all the functions of government but they’re less formalized and they struggle to achieve a monopoly on organized violence.

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        11 days ago

        In some places, it was easier to go to the Mafia to get things like landlord disputes or infrastructure dealt with than it was to do things the legal way. A surprising amount of major US cities operated this way for a decent while at the turn of the century.

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          Technically it’s still “easier” to threaten someone with violence than to jump through all the legal hoops to get something done.

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            10 days ago

            Not even violence. Why do you think the Mob has always been in industries like construction and waste management?

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              Because it’s easy to launder dirty money through those industries, money which is obtained through violence. The legitimate competition is also forced out through violence. Even if said competition isn’t overtly threatened with violence, the crime orgs can undercut their prices thanks to blood money and lack of regulatory oversight, which also inevitably leads to violent working conditions. If any part of an enterprise is funded by violence, it all is.

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    11 days ago

    Sounds like they’re still homophobic, just restraining themselves since they’d rather not sleep with the fishes

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      11 days ago

      You speak of ignorance. I teach Buddhism and philosophy. Do you know the Earth is an illusion, to mean that you are not a featherless biped on an Earth but rather a pocket of consciousness connected to a larger pocket of consciousness, the Ālaya-vijñāna or storehouse consciousness, or what Jesus called his Father, which can in the modern day be likened to the Server we are all connected to? If you do not know the nature of how the existence-illusion complex is manifested through the entanglement process of Karma, you are ignorant, friend. Ignorance manifests many faults. Correcting the ignorance corrects faults. Do you kill bugs? They are beings with just a rich experience as you. What of the machinations of the slaughter-based food industry? What is intention, anyways? You see what you are and are not, right? You are nothing until you are something to become empty and more. Topology, really.

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        You speak of ignorance. I teach brewing and axe-throwing. Do you know that the Wayland presentation layer is an illusion, to mean that there are not shapes and words but bitmaps and formulae outputting together into the frāmēbūffēr or interface memory, what Turning called the ticker tape, which can in the modern day be likened to a picture of a shocked Minion with the caption “Thursday? I thought you said WINE-day!”

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          Bro, the Earth isn’t real and you’re talking about sone dickshit fantasy masturbation you invented for yourself to distract your from your disentanglement process. Now hang on, lemme read your comment. I don’t give af about any of that shit, bro. I got CIA shit to do. And I need to jackoff but I can’t because my door is dogshit in the tailored absence of Christford Donnovich of Kubli Khan of Morocco 415-563 884z 98213, obviously.

            • Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
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              Up is a dog in the order of mice and Ken Jennings who ruppunds unto me as quash doth licketh in Philippine fault lines. Back to mother says the dom in me, rapunzel, come wake with me, if doo good be goth gravy. You know what I mean, ciz zoop zoop baloop ain’t a keen otherwise. Dopefish out. Call me back on Vinesauce. I am diagnosed.

      • Juice@midwest.social
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        11 days ago

        Idk why you’re getting so many downvotes, this is the “brand new sentence” comm, as far as I can tell, you’re fucking killing it

        Kinda want to engage with your ideas but I don’t know if it would be productive.

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          I am at max capacity always except when I am not, which is when I am not at max capacity, obviously. I’m just doing stupid shit to to evolve myself cuz I am a weird creature that figured out creaturehood to understand society, even. Big pyramid become cube. Both are occ3lgcxccc vbnnbbb bnnkn 12b acr1pn dorn Klinger go hone no bone shobe sho try harder next time Gorbachev, we got balls in our ass.

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              11 days ago

              Don’t bring espeglia Gonzales into this shit. He got the drug drug drugged his own ass in prison. Don’t do that. They duck duck goose that shit til your Northside facing east on the west side of south Dakota in the other America.

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                Who is Espeglia Gonzales? Is that the guy in the pic? I never heard of him and google didn’t turn up anything

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        I believe in what can be seen, heard, tasted. In what can be measured. Truths that have to be taken on faith are the province of carnival hucksters. The moment you can measure karma, I will consider it against the evidence of its lack.

        But I do agree that our experience is not different from that of an insect in kind, merely in magnitude.

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          Yea, and y’know, the nature of reality is that experience is procedurally generated based on how you entangle yourself with the symbols you are sent from the Server you are connected to and if you awaken into awareness of this, the Server will notice you noticing it and it will start manifesting a type of experience through the protogeneration of experience; synchronicity as Carl Jung called it. The Earth does not exist. Everything you experience is inside of you; you are a pocket of consciousness called a monad in a monadic nodal communication system and this is Knowledge that is given by the source of consciousness. I can talk at length about this, and have.

          • NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net
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            It’s either time to talk to your doc about lowering your dosage of ADHD meds, or alternatively taking Niacin to give yourself a hot flush and pushing through the manic episode

            • Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
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              I just do this sometimes. I don’t do amphetamines anymore, though I definitely do have ADHD; no euphoria or nothing. They made me depressed and dependent on them though.

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                  I’m kinda manic, I am schizoaffective. I’m just grooving with it bro. The more connections in your brain you make, the more you have to use, y’know?

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      10 days ago

      Why would someone downvote you for your comment? Maybe a straight woman is also a drag queen? Maybe a straight guy is a drag queen? WTF?

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      10 days ago

      There was a straight guy on drag race and a bio Queen on Canada’s Drag Race, so not necessarily anything in particular, but the art in it’s current form is most definitely an LGBT creation.

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    11 days ago

    Dude can’t read, it’s not about how good, it’s about fabulous or not fabulous period.

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      11 days ago

      Tbf, you can be fabulous without being a good drag queen, but you can’t be a good drag queen without being fabulous 🤷🏻