• deliriousdreams@fedia.io
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    Approximately 1/3 of Americans own guns.

    7% seems low just because so far as I can tell it’s 7% of adults in American not 7% of those who own guns.

    I haven’t ever fantasized about shooting someone. Throttling them to death? Yeah. Dropping a piano on someone? Certainly. Shooting them? No. For one thing I don’t want to clean up a shooting. But for another at the point where you’re wanting to kill someone or maim them a gun is just impersonal and hands off. I’m not a murderer. I would absolutely have to be pushed to that point.

    But I have met quite a few people who really do just want to shoot someone. They are looking for a reason.

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    8 hours ago

    If I ever get mad enough at someone to picture killing them it’s usually a blunt force weapon, so I get the low value on shooting here.

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        People answer surveys as their ideal self not honestly. So yea most people, considering the constant virtue signaling about how non violent they are (lol to be proud of non violence while a pedophile rules you is a definitely a moral choice), are going to answer these surveys saying they are non violent.

        They are the most violent among us and they always have justification.

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      15 hours ago

      Yep, what a load of bollocks, the only thing this study is useful for is why would you do this.

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        Mm, you can fixate on killing someone without using a gun.

        You could use a knife, a rope, poison, there are any number of things you can use to kill someone.

        Maybe that 93% just very specifically envisions harming others without guns!

        Lol no, many of them are lying.

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          Woodchipper, car bomb, garbage compactor, fire, a single large rock, multiple smaller rocks, open windows, closed windows and some force… The list goes on and on

          Update:

          • drum of boiling water
          • large cat exhibit at the zoo
          • thrown from a highway bridge
          • snake pit
          • drowning in a cesspool
          • explosive butt plug
          • fire ant
          • flying with Tom Hanks in a movie

          A bit exotic perhaps, but strapped to a rocket and hurled at a building.

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    I don’t know how you could be older than 12 and not wanted to shoot someone ever.

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      I can honestly say I’ve never wanted to shoot, stab, or otherwise greviously injure someone. I’ve gotten into some fistfights when emotions have gotten out of hand, but this is maybe why its important that everyone is not running around with a way to blast holes in people.

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      That’s how many are willing to admit it to a pollster, which is a subset of who thought about it. We don’t know how big the larger set is.

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          Yes there is also the subset of people who’ve thought about it, and might tell a pollster, but avoid pollsters if at all possible.

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      The text of the question seems to be “I have thought about shooting another person or multiple people” and 7% responded “Strongly agree/agree/somewhat agree.” Looking at the 160 page pdf questionnaire, I’m guessing most respondents deduced the correct answer and didn’t want to cast aspersions on any of their other habits.

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    I’ve thought about all sorts of horrible things I’d never even contemplate actually doing. I’m sure I’m not alone.

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      I often used to have intrusive violent or sexual thoughts about strangers I’d see out in the world. They were unwanted and I found them horrifying, and of course would never do anything like that to anyone. Medication eventually helped.

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        That sounds a bit scary, glad you found some relief. Yeah the key thing is self control and of course recognizing they are bad in the first place. Mine are fairly random, like my brain just likes to remind me what horrors the human mind is capable of for some reason.

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      Absolutely, there’s a huge difference between thinking about doing something and then letting the thought go compared to doing anything on the path to actually doing it.

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    As an anti-gun anti-american pacific redneck, I have also thought about shooting people, at least once per week. There’s only 3 people alive I would actually ever shoot though, given the chance.

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      I would not actually shoot anyone but I have certinaly thought about it. Maybe more murder in general. Its called getting very mad at people doing very bad things. I think 93% are either lying or their imaginations are more hands on or maybe less.

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      If America didn’t have such a fetish for guns it would be %7 of people thought about stabbing someone or something

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      As a Canadian, I have never thought about shooting anyone, but I have thought about people being shot by someone else who is in no way affiliated with me! Lol