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      I agree that they should get no exposure, but their claims need to be immortalized for everyone to laugh at and as a cautionary tale. Maybe a specialized site, like the onion, but just for shit these guys say over the years, just to keep tabs on who says what before they all run away from this mess once it all collapses.

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    MAGAts, and most GOP really, are incapable of self-reflection or critical thinking. The current environment in the USA is what happens when you devalue education.

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    “Foreign interference is helping the opponent”, says deputy leader of unpopular and corrupt foreign regime inadvertently helping the opponent.

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    Imagine being the Vice President of the US and still being this much of a loser. It is hard to comprehend.

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    That’s almost like accusing the US of foreign interference in California. (Yes, the EU is not like the US. But unlike Vance or Putin, it’s not a foreign entity to Hungary.)

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    “the bureaucrats in Brussels have tried to destroy the economy of Hungary”

    If they wanted to do that, they would fund Orban’s election campaign.

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      He knows Trump can’t be long for this world, so he’s trying real hard to be a global bully.

      Too bad for him, nobody buys it. He’s not attractive, he’s not funny, he’s not winsome; he’s a lame duck with no chance of filling Trump’s fetid shoes.

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    IMO the Trump Administration is just projecting all the time. If MAGA says “Those ppl want to do this and that” it’s reasonable to assume that “this and that” is actually what MAGA themselves want to do very badly. Examples:

    JD Vance: “This is one of the worst examples of foreign interference in an election that I have ever seen in Europe.”

    -> The US is literally intervening in Hungary’s election itself. Vance appeared in Budapest to back Viktor Orbán and said he was “here to help.” Plus, they made it a part of their National Security Agenda to push for some sort of “change” within the EU to make us align with them.

    Donald Trump: “You’re gambling with World War Three.”

    -> The US is itself escalating everything. Trump has paired this rhetoric with coercive pressure on Ukraine and, more recently, with ultimatums toward Iran, including threats of devastating strikes.

    Donald Trump: “Law firms are weaponizing the legal system.”

    -> The US is now itself using state power punitively against legal opponents. Trump’s executive orders targeted major law firms and courts described the measures as unconstitutional / retaliatory.

    Trump administration officials: “Europe needs more free speech, and Washington will fund free speech initiatives there”

    -> The US is itself pressuring speech / media. The administration pursued measures against NPR, PBS, and the AP while presenting itself abroad as an anti-censorship actor.

    They promised “Freedom against ideological coercion”

    -> and they immediately started imposing ideological coercion of their own by interfering with universities.

    In other words: listen to what they say “the others” will do. They will do it themselves.

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      I will say that when Trump accuses others of doing something bad, it’s not his imagination that’s working - it’s his memory.

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    The usual ambivalence of “why is this even news when a bullshitter bullshits” vs “gotta call out official government bullshit”. I guess, in this case, it’s more directly actually relevant to EU politics as attacks on the EU.

    I wish press were more direct, dismissive, and outright toxic to these notorious liars, bullshitters, and enemies of society.

    And I wish I wouldn’t have to read this name at all anymore.

    I find this article layout a bit confusing. Looks like it was a live-updates page. As a page and article/content, I find it pretty bad, though.